Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 2 months ago
The law came from Moses and grace from Jesus Christ.
The law condemns you gadam as it does all who have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
Have you broken the law?
What commandments have you broken?
Have you ever lied?
Have you coveted?
Have you failed to honour your parents at any point?
If you have broken the commandments of…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 2 months ago
The law condemns you gadam.
Up to you.
Ask yourself what is the purpose of the law.
Is it not to highlight sin.
So your a sinner.
Now what.
I trust in Jesus Christ.
What’s your plan?
Hi Proclaimer, it is not Law as misinterpreted by Paul and Christianity but it is Torah and is full in itself as per the Hebrew Bible.
The word “Torah” in H…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 2 months ago
Gadam
Matthew 16: 27 “For the Son of Man is to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay everyone for what has been done. 28 Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
Some standing HERE (with Jesus)
are Peter, James…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 2 months ago
In short, there is a generation that will see these things fulfilled.
Did they go through all the towns of Israel before they were scattered around the world? That is still to come as not all have returned to their homeland.
There has been much tribulation in the last 2000 years. The rise of the Ottoman Empire succeeding the Roman Empire seems…
Berean replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 2 months ago
Proclaimer
ANTICHRIST WENT OUT FROM THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH BUT THEY WERE NOT OF THE CHURCH…
DID ISLAM OR ISLAMISTS COME OUT OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH?
Yes or no?
Thank’s
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 2 months ago
So what.
Matthew didn’t write about every prophetic fulfilment.
Why does he have too.
I found this table of fulfilled prophecies. I have read them all so I cannot verify how accurate this is. But I can see Matthew spoke about some, but not all. Again, big deal. Why does he have to?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 2 months ago
But I am not agreeing with your logics of the so called ‘first Law then Grace’. It was purely the interpretation of Paul then by his followers. Grace is always there in the Torah and the Hebrew Bible and is not a new invention or secret revelation by the NT writers. Please read the following;
The law condemns you gadam.
Up to you.
Ask you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 2 months ago
There are many antichrists.
One sign is antichrists deny Jesus is the Son of God, a core tenant of Islam.
Islam based itself on Jewish and Christian scriptures. Probably in an attempt to gain legitimacy among the people.
But it introduced lethal doctrines and then forced this through preaching and violence.
Imagine the tribulations that…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 2 months ago
ANTICHRIST
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
They went out from us, but they were not of us;
for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made…[Read more]Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 5 years, 2 months ago
Hi To all
What does Jesus do for us?
(1) Does he offer us the gift of salvation?
(2) He GIVEN us salvation?
Is there a difference between these two ways of believing?
Yes. If you believe (1), you will feel that your salvation begins with YOUR act or choice to accept what He offers you. If you choose not to accept it, then you will think…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 2 months ago
Hi Brother Gene thanks for your reply. But I don’t agree with your interpretation on “this generation” as a particular generation because Jesus was referring to the generation whom he was talking. Gospel preaching to the ends of the earth again a speculation of Matthew’s writer as this saying is tied to “truly I tell you, you will not have go…
gadam123 replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 2 months ago
The Last Days according to the NT writers
According to preterists “the last days” refers to the time between the advent of John the Baptist and the destruction of Jerusalem. This “eschaton” refers not to a time in the distant future, but to a time that is imminent. Gary DeMar summarizes the relevant passages of the New Testament with emphasi…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 2 months ago
Hi Brother Gene thanks for your reply. But I don’t agree with your interpretation on “this generation” as a particular generation because Jesus was referring to the generation whom he was talking. Gospel preaching to the ends of the earth again a speculation of Matthew’s writer as this saying is tied to the third one “truly I tell you, you wi…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 2 months ago
It’s amazing that I even need to point this out right.
So Isaiah 53 was not so important for the Jewish Christians of Jesus’ time?
Then why bother you and me now?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 2 months ago
As I quoted earlier there was no such concept of dying Messiah at the time of Jesus which is clearly visible in the earliest traces of the NT. Please take the example of Peter’s negative statement on Jesus’ death (on the cross) and the disciples’ ignorance on the scriptures supporting dying Messiah in Luke 24.
So what. I understand today there…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 2 months ago
It also makes perfect sense that if God used the nation of Israel and then sent his messiah into the world, then both would have similar descriptions in that the world generally hates God, so both would get similar treatment. Just like Christians receive today in many places in the world.
Isaiah 53 doesn’t rule out Jesus. It supports him more t…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Rejecting Jesus Christ in the forum Faith 5 years, 2 months ago
1. He will be King over united Kingdom of Israel
2.Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
3. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
4. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: “Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore.” (Is…GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 2 months ago
Adam…..The kingdom of God comes not without observation , ” it is within you.” That is what Jesus could have been talking about. Also the very net chapter he did take some of the disciples , where he was transformed before them and Moses and Elijah appeared with him. Just as John was transported also “before he died” into “the day of the lord…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 2 months ago
It also makes perfect sense that if God used the nation of Israel and then sent his messiah into the world, then both would have similar descriptions in that the world generally hates God, so would get roughly the same treatment.
Isaiah 53 doesn’t rule out Jesus. It supports him.
It is amazing how close it resembles his life.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 2 months ago
Lol. Saying this doesn’t fit with Jesus is a joke.
If it quacks it’s a duck.
Of course not proof on its own, but certainly sounds like Jesus more than any other entity on planet earth in recorded history.
Your not very convincing gadam.
Just saying.
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