Berean……God sent it by his servant  “Jesus” And Jesus sent it to the churches by God’s servant John.  Why do you people want to always leave God the Father out of everything?  Jesus never did that did he?  If you truly believe Jesus , you would never leave God the Father out of anything,  Jesus never did.

peace and love to you and yours……..gene

Proclaimer……Kingdoms are just symbols of who has the predominate rule, not  every little kingdom that exists  within or without them, have the greater rule.

Babylonian type kingdoms are those who rule and govern their people like Babylon did, they are kingdoms which grew out of there predecessors.     Which fits scriptures,  because we know Sat…[Read more]

The Four Kingdoms of Daniel 2 and 7

The ‘four kingdoms’ of Daniel 2 and 7 are (I think) to be identified with Babylon, Media, Persia and Greece. The Greek empire is described in special detail because it had to immediately preceded before setting up the the kingdom of holy ones and especially it was the timeline of the actual writer of Daniel in…[Read more]

The moral purpose of prophecy
Chapter 7

Pentecost shed light on the moral objectid of prophecy
Even the disciples were slow to appreciate their Master’s interpretation of the Old Testament prophecies relating to the kingdom. They too were seeking temporal deliverance from the Roman yoke and therefore were not prepared for their terrible…[Read more]

WILL OUR PLANET BE THE “NEW EARTH” AFTER JESUS’ SECOND COMING?

Daily Devotional

God created Eden and the rest of our world with perfection and beauty, but then sin came and polluted the earth. The Lord’s plan was corrupted, perverted, and tainted by the devil. However, Satan will not ultimately confound God’s plan. The Lord is going to create…[Read more]

You impose rules and expect that these rules must be adhered to. I do not think this is a smart strategy for analysing anything.

Sorry I am not here to impose any thing on anyone. I am only learning things by critically analysing instead of blindly following the traditional pattern.

Time is a better judge and the number of heads indeed matches the…

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But I request you to see the internal background and the insights given in these books. For example the first Kingdom of Daniel was identified by the writer as of Babylon.

You impose rules and expect that these rules must be adhered to. I do not think this is a smart strategy for analysing anything.

Time is a better judge and the number of…[Read more]

And Revelation includes these but in a wider context so you see all the successive kingdoms before and after:

Hi Proclaimer, thanks again for your patience reading of my post and for the replies. Yes you can imagine any thing on these texts as there are plenty material on these books these days. But I request you to see the internal background and…[Read more]

From our perspective, we have the luxury of hindsight.

So let’s look at the successive empires.

Egypt – 3100 to 677 BC (Genesis 12:10)
Assyria – 677 to 626 BC (Genesis 2:14)
Babylon – 626 – 539 BC (Daniel 1:1)
Medo-Persia – 539 – 449 BC (Daniel 5:28)
Greecia – 449 – 146 BC (Daniel 10:20)
Rome – 146 BC-476 AD eastern leg / 1453 AD western leg or…[Read more]

Daniel 2 and 7 were talking about Four Kingdoms and the promised God’s Kingdom by his holy ones will be established after the Fourth Kingdom. So we need to identify the Fourth Kingdom as per this book for the climax of this Apocalyptic book.

Well as mentioned before, history does line up with the theory that probably most hold to and Revelation g…[Read more]

What are the 4 kingdoms then?

Surely history shows us the kingdoms that succeeded one another.

It’s really easy from our view point in history. You act like we are still living in Daniel’s time and looking into the future.

The past has already happened.

What does history show you

Hi Proclaimer, thanks for your reply to my post. In fact we are…[Read more]

Proclaimer,

Is Jesus Christ your God?

A simple ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ will suffice.

Yes. In the sense that he has rule over me.

But he is not the Most High God and the God of the Bible.

Rather he is his Son.

Hi brother Gene, Rome was no where in the vicinity of Danielic Four Kingdoms.

What are the 4 kingdoms then?

Surely history shows us the kingdoms that succeeded one another.

It’s really easy from our view point in history. You act like we are still living in Daniel’s time and looking into the future.

The past has already happened.

What does…[Read more]

To all……Rome, “was”  the fourth “world ruling” empire,  until 476 Ad,

Rome had two legs. The capital was moved to the east and it existed for another thousand years or so. The west divided into barbarian kingdoms and in time the countries of Europe. You see only the Western Roman Empire because your world view is western.

Know your history.

The moral purpose of prophecy
Chapter 6 

Futurism and the Book of Revelation
As the Jews did, so do the Futurists: they fail to discern the current moral purpose of the prophecies relating to “Israel.” Old Testament terminology is used in Revelation because the Church has taken the place of Israel, because the Church is “Israel.” God had a moral…[Read more]

God bless

Gene

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, 

which God gave unto him, 

to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;

and he sent and signified it by his angel  (Gabriel, like for Daniel)

unto his servant John: 

Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

Gadam

Rome was no where in the vicinity of Danielic Four Kingdoms. It is the mere speculations of the Jews and Christianity. 

Rome was nowhere near the Four Kingdoms of Danielic. These are only the speculations of the Jews and of Christianity.

Really Gadam?
This is not what Daniel 9 says. The prophetic Messianic chapter, WHICH speaks also of…[Read more]

To all……Rome, “was”  the fourth “world ruling” empire,  until 476 Ad,  then came the “Fifth” That we now live in,  next comes , The Sixth world ruling kingdom,  the kingdom of Jesus Christ and the Saint’s,  just that simple,  and completely agrees with Rev 17.
Then after the Sixth,  the one that John said “now “IS”,  comes the Seventh,  the revisi…

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Berean………..The book of Revelations  is the, the revelation of Jesus Christ , “that GOD”, “gave him”,  to show unto his servants (God’s servants) “,….<   the things to come.

It Comes from ” God”, to Jesus<  then to God’s servant John, then to God’s servants in the churches, and God’s future servants down through the ages and ages to come.

Why d…[Read more]