The Harlot and the Beast 

Chapters 17 and 18 of Revelation reveal the details of the collapse of the Roman Empire. The details concerning the pouring out of the seven bowls of wrath are now given and explained in chapters 17-18. This is the point of the first two verses of Revelation 17. One of the seven angels who had poured out one of the…[Read more]

Gene,

You have been shown a clear, grammatical reason that proves your use of the Greek word “dia” is misleading and now you have chosen to continue to mislead others. You will be accountable to the Lord Jesus for that.

Btw, it is not a doctrine that tells us that dia means “by the instrumentality of” when the genitive word follows it, it’s…[Read more]

Great post Proclaimer, I agree!

LU

Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Word of God
One of the most consistent ways that scripture identifies Jesus Christ as the Word of God is the recognition that God created all things through him, that he is before all things, and that nothing was made without him.
THE WORD
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word…[Read more]

It’s pretty clear what the text says

You either believe this about Jesus Christ or you don’t.

Gene has chosen not to believe. He thinks that is a myth like gadam.

Of course we have free will, so we can believe whatever we want and face the consequences whatever that may be.

It’s so clear in the text though.
The Son
The Son is the image of the…[Read more]

LU……Makes no difference to me what you do.  I will maintain that the words by and even “through” means Jesus is the “reason” for what God had in mind for his creation of  all Mankind even  “the man” Jesus. “Through” takes the form as a channel ” the way”,  is that not what Jesus said? , “I am the way” , the “way’ to what? , to be a God, to be y…[Read more]

To all,
In your opinion, what would be the difference between a created son of God and an uncreated son of God?
This should be interesting. LU

Gene,

You told Berean this:

Berean……how many’s times do I have to tell you, the word “by” there means , for the purpose of.

Translating “dia” (Strong’s #1223) is clarified by what type of word follows it. If the word after “dia” is in the genitive case it is translated as “through” or “by the instrumentality of” as opposed to the accusative case…[Read more]

I approach the book of Daniel, by FAITH because it is a book inspired by God. What I advise you to do, because in the end you will end up losing yourself completely and losing your life.

Yes that is the difference and thanks for your advice. In fact I am happy where I am now.

Hi Berean, please note I am not any fundamentalist to take the Biblical texts as for granted to take them as the endtime predictions. In fact I study these texts with historical approach and with critical outlook.

Please read my posts carefully and understand the clarity of those arguments.

Gadam

It’s not my case.

I approach the book of…[Read more]

There is no reason that this Daniel said here should be used for any improper reason. Daniel consulted the book of Jeremiah which announced a captivity of the Israelites of 70 years, and as the 70 years approached their end, this prompted him to pray and supplicate to his God.

Hi Berean, please note I am not any fundamentalist to take the Biblical…[Read more]

Gadam

You

“This approach can be discerned in Daniel’s appropriation of Jeremiah’s “seventy years” prophecy. The author took a prophecy that had already been fulfilled in the sixth century and rearranged it to make it relevant to the concerns of his audience in the second century BCE.”

Reminder of what Daniel said:

Dan.9
In the first year of…[Read more]

So who was the precious literal first-born of all creation then?

This was purely the imagination of the NT writers and Christianity stating that God Yahweh literally begot a son in the beginning.

Proclaimer……what did Jesus tell us, “you “must” be “born” again”.  The first “man” Adam , is not the finish product,  the “second” man Adam is. That is why we all must be “born” again,  just like Jesus was.

• Jesus was “first born”, from the root and offspring of King David,  then was “begotten” by God, after he was baptized at the Jordan rive…

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The above material taken from the book “The Human Faces of God What Scripture Reveals When It Gets God Wrong”

Gadam

It is you who announces tissues of lies, because you have been deceived and therefore you deceive others…sad To say…

Hi Berean, please go through the following…

Milking the Prophecy

This approach may be discerned in the author of Daniel’s appropriation of Jeremiah’s “seventy years” prophecy. The author took a prophecy that had already…[Read more]