So you trust their view of the universe when they didn’t even see the messiah when he came?

Your choice I suppose.

The globe doesn’t debunk the Bible because the Bible doesn’t teach that the earth is flat. When I asked you for the no1 flat earth verse in scripture, you used the one that mentions the circle of the earth. I guess I needed to explain to you that this verse fits the globe.

Is the book of Daniel a prophetic book?

The first part of the book is simply a story about a man called Daniel. The story is full of cultural and historical errors.

What’s the biggest one in your opinion?

Miia:  People who believe in the flat earth choose to believe their Bible (God’s word), over man’s word. So that shows faith. I am neutral, I do not even think about if the world is flat or a globe, but I have good friends that believe it is flat. They just choose to believe their Bible.

Well said.  I also believe that Adam was literally the first…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  What is the no1 verse in the bible that teaches a flat earth? I’m waiting.

Isaiah 40:22… He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.

Sounds to me like the earth is a circle and the heavens are like a…[Read more]

Miia: Must watch (can’t embed).

Regards: Nasal swabs

It’s a good one.  I watch Stew daily on Rumble.  I don’t remember if I told you about “And We Know” before – but you should really check his stuff out too.  Always uplifting and ends with a prayer every time.

Here’s his latest from yeste…[Read more]

But according to Gene and Adam, both your and my arguments for Jesus’ preexistence have failed, right?  Does that equate to Gene and Adam “debunking” us on the topic of preexistence?

Now, go apply what you’ve learned here to your own comments to me about the Biblical earth. 😉

It shouldn’t have surprised you.  You had already known me as a seeker of truth for over a decade before I shared my knowledge about the shape of the earth here.  How do I argue so successfully against the Trinity Doctrine?  Because I have truth on my side.  How do I argue so successfully about Jesus’ preexistence?  Because I have truth on my si…

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Here is an ad in New Zealand
Do you think this is BS or scientific fact?

Lol. So then it’s almost as if we could have kept the entire world open and operating at full capacity, while taking care to protect the most vulnerable among us?  Like TRUTHFUL doctors and scientists were saying right from the start?

Yes, that was always an option. Let the elderly die and a larger than desired number of younger people too in or…[Read more]

Can you give us a valid and rational reason that governments would prohibit Ivermectin from people who want to use it?

1. False hope, meaning it to also be a waste of money;
2. It works, thus corrupt government wanting to funnel our taxes into their preferred suppliers / friends.

Note: I am not arguing for the government. Don’t make that mistake.…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Interesting. I didn’t know that. So I looked it up. The explanation given is Haiti’s youthful population and we know that the virus effects mostly elderly people.

Lol. So then it’s almost as if we could have kept the entire world open and operating at full capacity, while taking care to protect the most vulnerable among us?  Like TRU…[Read more]

It shouldn’t have surprised you.  You had already known me as a seeker of truth for over a decade before I shared my knowledge about the shape of the earth here.

I guess the surprise came from how easily deceived you were. That comes from relying on your own understanding I suppose.

True, but Eric Dubay was still willing to debate that nut job Tyson anyway.  Likewise, Dig4Truth and I were willing to debate you for a while.  But after a while it becomes an exercise in futility… a casting of pearls before swine.

I debunked your points one at a time. You just didn’t want to acknowledge that. Now you can see how Trinitarians fee…[Read more]

Adam:  Hi brother Gene, his beliefs are nothing new here they are mostly oriented towards JW/Arianism who believes Jesus’ preexistence as an Angelic being prior to his birth and Jesus as a god created in the beginning by God.

Don’t leave out God, Jesus and their Apostles/Disciples/Prophets.  My views are also “oriented towards” the things I lea…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Debating nut jobs run the risk of legitimizing them and denting the scientists reputation…

True, but Eric Dubay was still willing to debate that nut job Tyson anyway.  Likewise, Dig4Truth and I were willing to debate you for a while.  But after a while it becomes an exercise in futility… a casting of pearls before swine.

Gene:  Mike… still think the world is flat…  But he is pretty good on some bible topics though.

Proclaimer:  I agree. It surprised me to learn he was a flat earther after hearing what he had to say on other topics.

It shouldn’t have surprised you.  You had already known me as a seeker of truth for over a decade before I shared my kno…[Read more]

Adam: Don’t be afraid of a small needle my friend.

The way you word these continual “Mike is afraid” statements reminds me of a juvenile delinquent in school trying to get someone else to try smoking or doing drugs or shoplifting.  “Come on dude, don’t be a sissy.  Do you want all the girls to think you’re a scaredy cat?”

We’re not in scho…[Read more]

Verse 2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great
furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
“Like the noxious and even deadly vapors which the winds, particularly from the southwest,
diffuse in Arabia, Mahometanism spread from hence its pestilential…[Read more]

Gene

Satan is placed into the bottomless pit for a thousand years, at the end of that time period Satan is released and goes out into the earth a raises up the Seventh Babylonian type kingdom, a resurrected Babylonian kingdom of rule,  ….

Me
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