As for me, when it comes to our world, I choose to believe the One who created it over certain men who tell us this and that about it.

Many of these men including the smartest of all believed in God. You see, God is really a separate issue. Science cannot create an experiment to prove his existence. You can only know by looking at the odds and…[Read more]

But do you really know that, Gene? How were you able to personally measure the speed of the earth’s spin?

But do you really know that Australia exists Mike. How are you able to personally prove that it exists as you have never been there. You haven’t even been to the Southern Hemisphere. Thus that doesn’t exist either until you have seen it right?

Proclaimer: Show me any scripture that indicates a flat earth.

Adam: Here’s about 30 of them.

Proclaimer: I’m still waiting on any scripture that indicates a flat earth.

Wrong.

I want the no1 scripture.

I don’t want to discuss 30 scriptures at the same time thanks.

When each no1 scripture is debunked, then the 30 may be add…[Read more]

Gene:  …we also know the speed it spins at…

But do you really know that, Gene?  How were you able to personally measure the speed of the earth’s spin?  Of course you can’t do any such thing, can you?  And so these things you say “we know” are really just things that other people have told you.  You can’t confirm those things for yourself, but…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  I’m still waiting for the newbo1 flat earth verse in the bible.

Adam: ???

Hope you have read my previous post. There ends the matter…

😂🤣

Proclaimer:  Show me any scripture that indicates a flat earth.

Adam:  Here’s about 30 of them.

Proclaimer: I’m still waiting on any scripture that indicates a flat earth…[Read more]

There isn’t any such thing as a “flat earth model”.  We don’t know the exact shape or circumstances associated with the flat plane that God created for us to live on.  But here’s a map from 1893 that shows both the circle and the four corners…

I also see that the bottom has scriptures that condemn the globe theory. 😉

Berean please go to what I wrote on First love , and respond, no one has yet to respond to it,  I wonder why?

Because a wise man will be thankful for a rebuke, but a fool will ignore it. I think people know that discussing anything with you is futile. You have never acknowledged when you were proven wrong and never acknowledged weaknesses in yo…[Read more]

Adam:  Suffice to say that the earth envisioned by flat-earthers is as immovable as any geocentrist could desire. Most (perhaps all) scriptures commonly cited by geocentrists have also been cited by flat-earthers. The flat-earth view is geocentricity with further restrictions.

Little known fact:  Assuming that the earth is a ball, there is a…[Read more]

So you don’t want to consider the history?

I don’t mind discussing history. But I need you to admit that the Medes and the Persians were given the kingdom after the Babylonians. You have 3 witnesses in the Book of Daniel for this.

1. The statue;
2. The second beast;
3. The goat with two horns.

This discussion is based on the Book of Daniel. You d…[Read more]

There is no conceivable way for the heavens to be spread out like a vault/canopy/tent over it, or any way for God to sit enthroned above it, looking down at His people like grasshoppers – since there is no up, down, above or below in your sun-worshiping model.

Rubbish. If I approached earth from space, then eventually people will look like sma…[Read more]

Globes are 3D circles

I guess I need to explain to you that this is a circle…

So is this:

In fact the second picture is more a circle than than the first. Because a circle viewed from the top of bottom is a circle, but from the side is not.

A ball on the other hand is always circular from any angle.

I just love the fact that the no1 Flat E…[Read more]

But… if you claim that the vax DOES work, and that these “breakthrough cases” are the result of a new variant that will require ANOTHER vax, then your plan not only continues on, but you get to sell another $100 billion worth of new vaccines!

Vaccines do work. Ask people who have caught viruses because they didn’t have a vaccine. Bullet proof…[Read more]

Mike, what is you plan for Covid-19?

Are you going to rely on a drug or just get Covid and hope for the best?

Adam:  This is consistent with the Hebrew cosmology previously described, but it is ludicrous in the light of modern astronomy. If one star let alone all the stars in the sky “fell” on the earth, no one would be hollering from any mountain or crag.

That is hilarious!  Thank you for that wealth of Biblical information.  I see from Proclaim…[Read more]

I do agree with you on the miscounting of the deaths from COVID-19, though.,  you are right about the annual death from the regular flew,  I believe,  and perhaps a lot of them died from other complications they had before they contracted COVID-19

Wow gene. You can be rational sometimes.

Miia started the thread as a question – not a sermon.  Nobody here is “preaching” that the vax is the mark, and so far, only Miia believes that it very well could be.  I don’t think so, because the receiving of the mark always goes hand in hand with worshiping the beast in Revelation.

gadam is not that honest IMO. His biases make him exaggerate.

Mike, the vaccine doesn’t give 100% immunity.

Bullet proof vests don’t stop 100% of bullets.

Parachutes don’t work 100% of the time either.

So why would we take the vaccine?

If you cannot answer that, then could I suggest that you find out what God wants you to do?

Because it is not science.

Adam: Ivermectin is one of the trial treatment for COVID like HCQ. Yes our Governments need not ban such medicines even though there is no guaranty of these medicines for the treatment of COVID so far.

There are hundreds of thousands of real world cases that say these medicines do work against Covid – including Gene’s own testimony. And I agree…[Read more]

Mike, I said this before. You have no natural talent for science. But it is surprising that you don’t see that.

I would stick to what God has called you for. After all, it is what we do in God’s will that counts.

It is there that you will excel because it will be something in God’s strength.

Our weaknesses are made strong.

Perhaps you have…[Read more]

Adam:  I agree with Mike on these arguments. We can not simply compare these ancient texts as applicable to our scientific world today… There are many texts that reflect the Flat earth in our Bible. This is the truth.

We agree that the Bible teaches a flat and stationary earth with a firmament over it in which the sun, moon, and stars run their…[Read more]