Proclaimer:  If you are saying that the sun was created on the fourth day, then I contest that.

Then you are contesting, not me, but the Bible itself.

Proclaimer:  What happened on the 4th day is that the sun was placed in the vault. So looking up from the earth’s surface, you can see the sun in the sky.

Yes, the sun was placed in the domed, vau…[Read more]

In my opinion, Proclaimer has dishonored the spirit and intent of the first Bible vs Scientism Hot Seat thread by allowing other posters, inserting off-topic issues, and turning it into a regular thread like the one we were already on when he refused to directly answer my questions in the first place – the very reason I started the Hot Seat t…

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Mike:  PROCLAIMER, IS THERE ANY SCRIPTURAL REASON FOR YOU TO SUSPECT THAT THE DAILY SUN-EARTH CYCLES – OR THE LIGHT-DARK CYCLES THAT PRECEDED THE APPEARANCE OF THE SUN – WERE ANYTHING OTHER THAN 24-HOUR CYCLES DURING THE CREATION PERIOD? IF SO, PLEASE PRESENT THAT SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE.

 
PROCLAIMER:  WHAT? LOL. DAY AND NIGHT CYCLES BEFORE THE SUN…[Read more]

Mike:  PROCLAIMER, IS THERE ANY SCRIPTURAL REASON FOR YOU TO SUSPECT THAT THE DAILY SUN-EARTH CYCLES – OR THE LIGHT-DARK CYCLES THAT PRECEDED THE APPEARANCE OF THE SUN – WERE ANYTHING OTHER THAN 24-HOUR CYCLES DURING THE CREATION PERIOD? IF SO, PLEASE PRESENT THAT SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE.

 
PROCLAIMER:  WHAT? LOL. DAY AND NIGHT CYCLES BEFORE THE SUN…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Hi Mike. It is better to have one outstanding question. That way it is easier to keep track and you don;t have to moan about me not answering your questions because I have missed them.

Well let’s see… I asked if there was any reason for you to suspect that the daily earth-sun cycles were longer than 24 hours during the creation…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  The thing is, if you test something multiple ways and it always comes out as true, then that goes a long way to prove a truth about the physical universe.

Let me give you another couple of lessons…

1. Science is NEVER “settled”.  Even the most accepted conclusions in history are often later proven wrong.  Science is an ONGOING pr…

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Proclaimer:  You most certainly deny science. Even the most predictable and repeatable of observations are denied by you.

😅😂🤣  After all that kicking and screaming and finally reluctantly agreeing with what I’ve been saying about science all along, you STILL erroneously think that someone can “deny” what you yourself called the “pursuit of k…[Read more]

Proclaimer: Then God is unscientific.

Correct.  The existence of God is not a part of science.

Proclaimer:  But he is observable through the things he has made. So I cannot see him, but I know he is there.

Correction:  You can observe things that clearly indicate an intelligent designer (like your circle of apples coupled with footprints), but you…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  So let’s look at the Big Bang. It is true that we cannot view the Big Bang directly or indirectly…

Then it’s not a part of science – plain and simple.

Proclaimer:  However, with the map of the background radiation coupled with the evidence for an expanding universe, you only need to play the movie backwards to see that eve…

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Proclaimer:  Science means knowledge. But it is more accurately defined as the pursuit and application of knowledge.

Science does not mean knowledge, but you have already corrected yourself by accurately defining science as the PURSUIT of knowledge.  Therefore, if someone claims that somebody else is “denying science”, the person making the c…[Read more]

So amazing to see the hypocrisy.  After denying the existence of the biolabs for weeks, so much incontrovertible evidence had emerged that Victoria Nuland had no choice but to admit their existence – but insist that they were “good labs”.  But then she immediately followed that up by saying she hopes those nasty Russians don’t get their h…[Read more]

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I don’t know about an ancient prophecy, but here’s a 2008 prophecy from Kim Clement about two presidents…

I was never into politics.  I voted one time for Ross Perot – and never again until 2020.  I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016, because I figured he was just another elite… although I must admit that the w…[Read more]

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Here is a photo that shows a volcano called Mount Taranaki that is partly obscured by the curve of the earth. One of these photos was taken by an ex-work colleague of mine. I am pretty certain he is not a shape shifter or elite who is trying to hide the globe from us.He is an ordinary bloke and he believes in God.
Mt Taranaki as seen from…[Read more]

Okay, I have the next 6 questions. Thank you. Although you can respond to my answers. But no questions please.

PROCLAIMER, ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE FROM THE SCRIPTURAL WORDS ABOVE THAT, BEFORE THE APPEARANCE OF THE SUN, GOD CREATED LIGHT AND SEPARATED IT FROM THE DARKNESS?

ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THAT HE CALLED THE LIGHT “DAY”, AND THE DARKNESS “NIGHT”?

AND ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THAT HE CALLED THE VERY FIRST DAY-NIGHT CYCLE, WHICH INCLUDED A SINGLE MORNING AND A S…

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Here is a good video about science and how we came to understand the speed of light or the fastest speed anything physical can travel.

The thing is, if you test something multiple ways and it always comes out as true, then that goes a long way to prove a truth about the physical universe. If under some conditions the answer is different, then…[Read more]