You do not understand science. We can see the heavens with telescopes. We image the globe everyday with satellites. We have geologists that can analyse rocks. This is science. What you are doing is the opposite. And science questions itself. Whereas, you have dodgy dogma only. And you ignore the most blatant evidence which we will be going through…[Read more]

Kathi, read my most recent post to Gene on this very subject.  It’s higher up on this same page.

Isaiah 43:10 “You are My witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may consider and believe Me and understand that I am He. Before Me no god was formed, and after Me none will come.

1 Corinthians 8:4
So about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that an idol is nothing at all in the world, and that<…[Read more]

Berean: That said, I would like you to comment on this god mentioned in 2 Timothy 2:3,4…

Mike, for you, who is this “man of sin”,”shewing HIMSELF” THAT HE IS GOD”.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4…  Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness—the son of destruction—is revealed. He wi…[Read more]

LU: Jesus is different from all the gods you list…

Yep.  Jesus is different than Michael, just as Satan is different than Gabriel… and just as all four of them are different than their own God, Yahweh.

LU:  The names on your list aside from Jesus may be gods in a sense to someone yet they are no gods at all in an ultimate sense to Y…

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https://youtu.be/zrY-uAblOeQ

Proclaimer: At the end of the first day, God had already created the heavens and the earth. And his Spirit was hovering over a watery planet etc.

That concurs with the order I have been saying.

That God created the heavens and the earth first.

But you say no to that despite scripture and science saying otherwise.

You should probably go read…[Read more]

Mike,

So you say that Jesus is a real actual God. You have agreed in the past that Jesus is also the only begotten God. You have also made known that you realize that Jesus has all authority in heaven and on earth.

Since you realize that Jesus is an only begotten God, then in your list of gods, Jesus is unique from all those you list since Jesus…[Read more]

Gen 1:1 were INCLUDED in the six days of creation, not EXCLUDED as you guys claim with zero scriptural support.

At the end of the first day, God had already created the heavens and the earth. And his Spirit was hovering over a watery planet etc.

That concurs with the order I have been saying.

That God created the heavens and the earth…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Let me help you out here. I quoted something from this topic. That usually means I am addressing that. Lol.

So then there ARE times when people sometimes copy something from one thread, and inadvertently paste it with their answer to the wrong thread?  I have done it.  Gene just did it a week ago.  And your use of the word “us…[Read more]

Btw Proclaimer, you attempted to answer a question that I never even asked Carmel.  My question to him concerned the fact that Yahweh Himself said that the creation of the heaven and earth mentioned in Gen 1:1 were INCLUDED in the six days of creation, not EXCLUDED as you guys claim with zero scriptural support.

But you can answer the correct…[Read more]

Did you mistakenly post this in the wrong thread?  Is it supposed to be the answer to my question on the private thread that you are bound by your own rules to answer before posting anything else on any other thread?

Let me help you out here. I quoted something from this topic. That usually means I am addressing that. Lol. But if that you is your…[Read more]

WHY NOT?

Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years…

It doesn’t say: “Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is 24 hours“.

Proclaimer: He did it in 6 days. Not 6 x 24 hour days.

Berean:  Proclaimer

WHY NOT?

Excellent question.  I’ve already thoroughly debunked all of Proclaimer’s excuses and reasoning on this in the private thread.  For example…

1.  The very concept and the word “day” was created by God for the sole purposes of the earth and those who live here…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  God doesn’t sleep…

Did you mistakenly post this in the wrong thread?  Is it supposed to be the answer to my question on the private thread that you are bound by your own rules to answer before posting anything else on any other thread?

Mike:  I retract those two fake apologies, because I stand by my original conclusions.  You have the right to “expose” me by saying I don’t know your heart/intent, or that it wasn’t really spamming, or whatever else you’d like to claim in your defense.  But you will NEVER have the right to FORCE me into admitting I was in error when I don’t believ…

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Where is your common sense. Your ability to reason.
He did it in 6 days. Not 6 x 24 hour days.

Proclaimer

WHY NOT?

Mike

I would always call angels, angels or divine messengers and not “gods” so as not to create confusion in some minds.
That said, I would like you to comment on this god mentioned in 2 Timothy 2:3,4

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Let NO MAN deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come(Jesus coming), except there come a falling away first, and that MAN OF SIN be…[Read more]

You have 50 words or less to refute that claim or make a VERY SHORT counterpoint. Go.

God doesn’t sleep and he existed and created before the sun was even created according to you Mike.
A day to God is not like a say for you Mike.
Where is your common sense. Your ability to reason.
He did it in 6 days. Not 6 x 24 hour days.

Okay Gene, I’m going to DIRECTLY address and put to rest your two “go-to” verses that you think give you permission to just ignore hundreds of other scriptures.  And then afterwards, you DIRECTLY address the question that I end this post with, okay?

Gene:  But the bottom line is this you either believe it or not, remember, this is not me saying t…

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