LU:  Whenever Jesus referred to Yahweh as his father, he identifies his father’s name to his followers. For instance, when he was 12 years old and stayed behind from the caravan and was found teaching in the temple, Jesus identified who his Father was…Yahweh. He said that he was in his father’s house which they knew as Yahweh’s house…and so on.…

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Mike,

You said: Yes, exactly?

Let’s not pretend that I haven’t posted those verses many times as the foundation of my understanding. The problem is not that I don’t use words right out of the Bible translation, it is that one of us believes that Jesus is the literal and only Son of God who is one with his Father as the Head over all creation.

LU: Mike,

Paul would give the same answer.

I’m not sure what you’re talking about, or why you would presume to know what Paul may or may not have done in any particular situation.

LU: You mean like this:

Deut 10:17 For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe.

Rev 17:14 These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him…

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Mike,

You asked:

Btw, I had asked you quite a while ago to DEFINE the word “god” in Phil 3:19.

In Phil 3:19 god =belly or physical appetite for food.

LU:  Very good. I call Jesus the only begotten Son of God too.

Yes I know.  Unfortunately, one of us is apparently oblivious to the FACT that the Son OF God cannot very well BE the very God that he is the Son OF – and therefore, if the son of God in question is a god at all, he must NECESSARILY be a DIFFERENT god.

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Mike,

You said:

 And no, “el” is not “one of God’s literal names”.  El means god, and god is a title, not a literal personal name.

It is often used as a name for Yahweh. It also can be used as a title.

Mike,

You asked:

Really?  In what NT scripture can I read this literal name of God as Jesus was making it known to his followers?

Whenever Jesus referred to Yahweh as his father, he identifies his father’s name to his followers. For instance, when he was 12 years old and stayed behind from the caravan and was found teaching in the temple, Jesus…[Read more]

Mike,

Paul would give the same answer.

Mike: Kathi, do YOU think the word “name” in John 17:26 refers to God’s literal name?

LU: Yes.

Really?  In what NT scripture can I read this literal name of God as Jesus was making it known to his followers?

LU:  I already answered the second question in that post, btw.

No you didn’t, actually.  Here’s what I asked…

Mike:  Exodus 23:20-22……

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Mike,

You asked:  Why not just teach your understanding using terminology that IS in the Bible?

You mean like this:

Deut 10:17 For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe.

Rev 17:14 These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb…[Read more]

LU: #1. c

#2. none of the above, there is one God and one Lord. Yahweh is both God and Lord.

One correct, the other blatantly incorrect.  That’s a 50% grade, which is an F.  You have failed a very simple math quiz, Kathi.  That’s how far from reality your bizarre doctrine has led you.  Shame.

LU:  I’m not rewriting a verse, I’m summing up several Biblical concepts.

I think Berean was asking why you can’t do your summing up using the same TERMS and PHRASES the Bible uses – instead of inventing your own terminology and phraseology.

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Mike,

You said:

Yes, John calls Jesus the only begotten Son of God in John 3:16.

Very good. I call Jesus the only begotten Son of God too. Therefore all other sons of God are not begotten in the manner in which Jesus was. Agree?

Yes, I could call Jesus my God and Savior, but I don’t.

Whose God and Savior is He besides Peter’s?

 A god is an en…

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Two posts above this one, I asked my next new “Must Answer” question to you.  The following is not a new question, but one of my previous “Must Answer” questions that you didn’t reasonably answer.  You’ll need to answer it along with the new “Must Answer” question from two posts above this one (Post #932540).
PROCLAIMER, DOES THE PLURAL WORD “…[Read more]

Mike,

You asked:

Kathi, do YOU think the word “name” in John 17:26 refers to God’s literal name?

Yes.

I already answered the second question in that post, btw.

Mike,

“Math quiz”

#1. c

#2. none of the above, there is one God and one Lord.

Mike,

You said:

That isn’t “clarification”, Kathi… it’s a complete re-write of what the verse actually teaches.

I’m not rewriting a verse, I’m summing up several Biblical concepts.

Proclaimer:  This discussion is called “The Bible vs Scientism”. Those posts are very on topic Mike.

Then include a scripture from the BIBLE that teaches something about the videos/photos/memes that you post – so I can address them according to the BIBLE.

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Mike: BUT WHAT IF THE MICAH PROPHECY HAD SAID THIS…

IN THE EVENING OF THE FIRST DAY OF REBUILDING YOUR WALLS, PEOPLE WILL COME TO YOU FROM ASSYRIA, AND BY THE MORNING OF THE SECOND DAY OF REBUILDING YOUR WALLS, THEY WILL BEGIN TO ARRIVE FROM THE CITIES OF EGYPT.

THEN WOULD WE BE TALKING ABOUT LITERAL DAYS?  YES OR NO?

Proclaimer: Yes…

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