Proclaimer replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 3 months ago
Proclaimer…….again you ignore what i ask you to do, Just make a simple Study of the Greek word , Thats a big hang up for you brother, IMO.
Which word in this scripture is the Greek for dia?
Hebrews 1:1-2
1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
2 but in these last days he has spoken to…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
So you do not have an answer as to what caused day and night before the first day concluded. Great. That simply means you haven’t thought about it before or have, but do not have an answer. Therefore, I am simply providing a possible answer. Everything has an answer and if we seek, we find.
But from the text, you can at least see that the day and…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
Berean. You believe that because that is what you were taught.
God IS my teacher.And he does it THROUGH DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS, AND I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT SPEAKS TO ME.
NOW , FIRST DAY LIGHT , I HAVE NO RESPONSE . THE BIBLE SIMPLY SAYS LIGHT IS AND LIGHT WAS, AND THAT’S IT. LIKE MANY, I CONSIDERED IT COULD BE SUNLIGHT, AND…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Berean. You believe that because that is what you were taught.
Read from Genesis 1:1 onward and what you will see is that clearly the heavens and earth and light were done and dusted…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
Hi Proclaimer
I don’t agree on everything with Mike, far from it, but all the same I give him reason to say that
the luminaries (sun, moon and stars) WERE DONE ON THE FOURTH DAY…. IT SEEMS SO OBVIOUS TO ME FROM THE TEXT….And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
Good gadam
Then do you acknowledge that it is written “in the day God created the heavens and earth”.
And do you acknowledge that it also says that God created the heavens and earth as well as light before the conclusion of Day 1?
gadam123 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
Of course you will just continue to preach the sun’s creation on Day four despite the acripturesvsaying otherwise. You will only say it to prove the earth is a pizza and gadam will concur so he can write off the Bible as a lie. So congratulations on your works of iniquity.
Sorry brother, I don’t write off the Bible that’s big allegation. I only w…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
Uour moon theory is easy to explain. I took a video of the moon with feathered edges, so that debunks you. The obvious explanation is feathering is caused by atmospheric distortion and that some cameras are better than others at taking photos. Thus further out planets require much better cameras than those that can photograph the moon.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
You’re not arguing against Adam here. You’re arguing against God’s own description of how HE created our world.
Nope. God’s own description say The Day he created the heavens and earth. And this including light took place BEFORE the conclusion of Day 1. I have stated the facts. You have to ignore these biblical verses in order to put creati…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
Pretender pretends that the pillars of the earth are “good, upstanding people”
Nope. Again you err. If people can be pillars, then there is no reason to believe that the earth sits on stilts just as people are not stilts. Spiritually minded people will understand what it means. Carnal men will only see a physical pillar. Likewise, when Jesus retur…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
From inside the dome, you see the light appear where it hits the inside of the dome – even if the actual source is not directly in line with you and where you see the light appear.
Uour answer is smoke and mirrors. But let’s run with it.
The first problem is that you need to come up with a complicated answer whereas the heliocentric model is re…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
Adam: 2. In Hannah’s prayer of thanksgiving, she says, “The pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them He has set the world” (1 Samuel 2:8, ESV). The pillars of the earth also appear in the book of Job. In answering his friend Bildad, Job talks about how God’s mighty power disqualifies any man from contending with Him: “They could not ans…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
Adam: The Bible says in Gen 1: 16, that…‘God created two lights the greater light, the Sun to rule the day, and the lesser light the Moon, to rule the night. The actual translation, if you go to the Hebrew text, it is ‘lamps’…‘Lamps having lights of its own.’ And that you will come to know better, if you read both the Verses – Gen 1:16-17. Ver…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
Adam: The problem is with the Biblical authors who were Flat Earthers because they were not having so many insights what we have today through scientific discoveries.
This is the claim Pretender used to make early on in this thread. But then I made him realize that the Biblical authors are said to have been inspired by Holy Spirit to write the t…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 3 months ago
Kathi? Hello?
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 3 months ago
Hi Danny. Yes, I have gone round and round with Adam over the erroneous claims about “El” and “Yahweh” in those articles he copies and pastes. There are also people who seriously believe that “Yahweh” in the OT sometimes refers to God, and other times to Satan.
I just stick to what the scriptures actually teach, and do my best to refute that o…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
Proclaimer: So gadam.
What is your new no1 flat earth verse?
I wait with bated breath.
Hey Adam, hit him with Gen 7:1 (“the floodgates of heaven were opened”) and Gen 8:2 (“the floodgates of heaven were closed, and the rain from heaven stopped”), because it’s funny to watch him try to explain the floodgates of heaven as clouds.
gadam123 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
Psalm 74:16… You have prepared the light and the sun.
Will you scoff at that one also?
If you can answer even one of these points SCRIPTURALLY (as opposed to your own imagination concocting things to fit your own narrative), we will certainly listen to what you have to say.
Until that time, your self-congratulatory chest-beating pat on your ow…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
Adam: The continued existence of planet earth in its current form is evidence that the sun did not stand still for a day (Joshua 10:13). Science says it would be enormously destructive for the earth to cease rotating on its axis.
Proclaimer: Read this from the Smithsonian where they contemplate that the sun stopping also fits with the sun not s…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 3 months ago
Adam: There were day and night, separated by evening, before the sun existed…
Proclaimer: Later in day 4 where you incorrectly place the sun, is then talking about the sky and the placement of the sun and moon.
Don’t you mean “where THE BIBLE incorrectly places the CREATION and placement of the sun into the firmament”?
You’re not arguing a…[Read more]
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