Supporting the Trinity Doctrine? – The Trinity Doctrine

Part 01 – The Trinity Doctrine
Part 02 – Who is the Most High God?
Part 03 – Who and what is Jesus?
Part 04 – The true meaning of ‘God’
Part 05 – Supporting the Trinity
Part 06 – Pre-Nicene writings
Part 07 – Development of the Trinity
Part 08 – Why challenge the Trinity
Part 09 – Trinity Doctrine conclusion
Part 10 – An Apostasy
Part 11 – 100 indisputable proof verses
Part 12 – What is your confession?
Part 13 – The Roman Catholic faith
Part 14 – Trinity Doctrine resources

This page is dedicated to the scriptures that people use when supporting the Trinity Doctrine. We look at why they are used to support this doctrine and test their hypothesis to see if they stand the test of scrutiny.

Each scripture is listed with a link to its own page showing biblical evidence as to why these are not supporting the Trinity Doctrine.


Does 1 John 5:20 call Jesus the true God?

We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity


Is Jesus called God in 1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)?

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity


Did Thomas call Jesus, his God in John 20:28 (KJV)?

And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity


Because YHWH calls himself “I am”  in Exodus 3:13-14, did Jesus claim to be Yahweh when he said “I am” in John 18:5-6?

5 “Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “I am he,” Jesus said. (And Judas the traitor was standing there with them.)
6 When Jesus said, “I am he,” they drew back and fell to the ground.

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1 John 5:7 lists the three so-called persons of the Trinity and says they are one. Does this prove the Trinity?

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

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Does Isaiah 9:6 prove the Trinity because it calls Jesus the mighty God?

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”‘

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Does the baptismal formula in Matthew 28:19 prove the Trinity Doctrine?
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

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John 1:1 says the Word was God. Does that mean that Jesus is God because he is the Word?

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

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John 1:18 calls Jesus ‘the begotten God”. Does this prove that Jesus is God and provide support for the Trinity Doctrine?

“No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.”

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Is Jesus called the Alpha and Omega in Revelation 1:8, thus making him God?

8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity


Colossians 2:9-10 says that Christ is the fullness of the Deity. Does this make Jesus God?

9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
10 and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.

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Philippians 2:6 says he existed in the form of God. Is this scriptural proof that Jesus is God?
who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,.

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Does Mark 12:36 support the Trinity Doctrine because of the usage of ‘Lord’?

David himself, speaking by the Holy Spirit, declared: “`The Lord said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet.”

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Did Jesus claim to be God in John 10:33 according to an accusation made by some Jews?

“We are not stoning you for any of these,” replied the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

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Was Jesus inferring he was God in John 5:18-19 when the Jews said he was making himself equal with God ?

18 For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
19 Jesus gave them this answer: “I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

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Does the word “us” in Genesis 1:26 mean that God consists of plural persons as the Trinity Doctrine teaches?

Then God said, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity →


Did Jesus infer that he was God in John 10:30 when he said he was one with the Father?

“I and the Father are one”.

Read why this verses does not teach the Trinity →


Hebrews 1:6 states that Jesus is worshipped by angels. Does that make him God?

And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.”

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Does Hebrews 1:8 state that God called Jesus, God?

But concerning the Son, “Your throne O God is forever and ever.”

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Does Isaiah 48:11 support of the Trinity Doctrine because God does not give his glory to another?

For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity →


Does Titus 3:4-6 support the Trinity Doctrine because God is called our saviour?

4 But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared,
5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,
6 whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior,

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Does Revelation 1:8 & Revelation 1:17-18 prove that God is a Trinity because of the term First and Last?

Revelation 1:8
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.
&
Revelation 1:17-18
And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last.
“I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen.

Read why these verses do not teach the Trinity →


Does Deuteronomy 6:4 and Genesis 2:24 prove that God is a Trinity because ‘one’ means ‘unity’?

Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
&
Genesis 2:24
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

Read why these verses do not teach the Trinity →


Does Isaiah 45:23 & Philippians 2:10-11 read together prove that Jesus is God because we will bow to God?

Isaiah 45:23
By myself I have sworn,  my mouth has uttered in all integrity  a word that will not be revoked:
Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear.
&
Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Read why these verses do not teach the Trinity →


Does 1 Peter 2:6-8 & Isaiah 8:12-15 read together prove that Jesus is God because he is the stumbling stone?

1 Peter 2: 6-8
6 For in Scripture it says: “See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.”
7 Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,”
8 and,“A stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.”

&
Isaiah 8:12-15
11 For Jehovah spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying,
12 Say ye not, A conspiracy, concerning all whereof this people shall say, A conspiracy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be in dread thereof .
13 Jehovah of hosts, him shall ye sanctify; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.
14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
15 And many shall stumble thereon, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.

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Discussion

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  • #791447
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    You love the bible.

     

    Can you please show me where GIVING YOUR LIFE TO JESUS is shown as a door into the Kingdom.

    I know it is a very popular way advised by men but is it of God?

    #791448
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Parables are teaching food for those reborn of the Spirit.

    They are impossible to understand for natural men.

    Spiritual matters need spiritual discernment

     

    #791449
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    We are called to follow Jesus.

    Did he give his life to Jesus?

     

    Such private personal decisions that are meant to solve your eternal issues are not the way of God.

    Repent and be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS and you will receive the promised Holy Spirit.

     

    No obedience and you die in your sins despite the soothsayers.

    #791450
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    You say you love the bible but you preach what is not taught there.

    What gives?

    #791456
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    “My sheep know my voice. They will not listen to the voice of strangers”

    But strangers told you about a trinity god, not Jesus.

    What gives??

    #791474
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    Parables are teaching food for those reborn of the Spirit.

    They are impossible to understand for natural men.

    Spiritual matters need spiritual discernment

    Trinitarians claim the same about their teaching as they do not want it tested. So do others.

    #791475
    kerwin
    Participant

    bodhitharta,

    I probably quoted because how I received it than for any other purpose. Now I think about it the evidence was most likely unnecessary as you already knew it.

    My point is the way Colossians 3:10 uses image of God is in the sense of bearing his likeness of true holiness and righteousness. Ephesians 4:24 is a paraphrase of the same idea.

    #791477
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    And you just make up your own stuff and throw it in the mix?

    #791478
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW.

    Col 3.10

    “..and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the One Who created him..”

    Eph 4.22f

    “..you lay aside your old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit, and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and put on the new self, which in [the likeness of ] God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth”

     

    So having been reborn of the Spirit we must submit our minds and hearts and repent that the Spirit can rebuild in us anew according to the Word.

     

    The light must be allowed to enter and drive the darkness from every corner if we are to walk in the Spirit and become sons of God.

    #791485
    DavidL
    Participant

    Can you please show me where GIVING YOUR LIFE TO JESUS is shown as a door into the Kingdom.

     

    “For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for My sake shall find it.” – Matt. 16:25

    This is the door into God’s kingdom.

     

     

     

     

    #791497
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    And the death and rebirth is shown in Romans 6.

    So what you proclaimed a door is a sham.

    #791506
    DavidL
    Participant

    The door is Christ – have you entered yet…?

    #791507
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    For you a door to a manmade trinity?

    #791511
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Is God the door??

    #791516
    kerwin
    Participant

    DavidL,

    Do you judge whether you will go to heaven or hell or are you content to let God judge that?

    Do you believe that those humans who learn how to always walk by the Spirit overcome the world and so stop sinning?

    Do you believe you can always do right and never sin, even while in your mortal body?

    The answer to these questions and others tell of the strength of your faith. Many false teaching undermine that strength.

    #791517
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    When you are led by the Spirit you do not sin.

    The Spirit does not lead men to sin.

    #791528
    DavidL
    Participant

    don’t let your logic deceive you, or your knowledge puff you up…

    Christ is the door – if you have Christ, you have the Father and the Spirit…

     

    We must surrender our life to Jesus Christ – make Him Lord (not just call Him Lord)…

    The question still remains Nick – are you born again..?

    #791531
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    So you following manmade doctrines does not relate to false logic and being puffed up?

    So one door is three??

    #791533
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Can you show where the apostles preached giving your life to Jesus or is this another manmade idea?

    #791534
    DavidL
    Participant

    Kerwin

     

    we must be born again of the Spirit – if we have not this new birth, then all our debating and questioning is pointless and fruitless – have you received Jesus Christ, and experienced this new birth…?

     

    For me, I was a drunk and drug addicted criminal that despised Christianity…but, over 20 yrs ago, the Spirit got hold of me and led me into the truth – showed me the reality of Jesus Christ and my need to give over control of my life to Him… it definitely wasn’t an easy decision ..but the truth won out, and as a result I was born again of the Holy Spirit – was given a new heart, with new desires…desires for God.

     

    You don’t have to be a bum like I was to experience Christ, but we each must receive the new birth…because, for one, we will never understand the truth of Scripture without it.

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