Supporting the Trinity Doctrine? – The Trinity Doctrine

Part 01 – The Trinity Doctrine
Part 02 – Who is the Most High God?
Part 03 – Who and what is Jesus?
Part 04 – The true meaning of ‘God’
Part 05 – Supporting the Trinity
Part 06 – Pre-Nicene writings
Part 07 – Development of the Trinity
Part 08 – Why challenge the Trinity
Part 09 – Trinity Doctrine conclusion
Part 10 – An Apostasy
Part 11 – 100 indisputable proof verses
Part 12 – What is your confession?
Part 13 – The Roman Catholic faith
Part 14 – Trinity Doctrine resources

This page is dedicated to the scriptures that people use when supporting the Trinity Doctrine. We look at why they are used to support this doctrine and test their hypothesis to see if they stand the test of scrutiny.

Each scripture is listed with a link to its own page showing biblical evidence as to why these are not supporting the Trinity Doctrine.


Does 1 John 5:20 call Jesus the true God?

We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity


Is Jesus called God in 1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)?

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity


Did Thomas call Jesus, his God in John 20:28 (KJV)?

And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity


Because YHWH calls himself “I am”  in Exodus 3:13-14, did Jesus claim to be Yahweh when he said “I am” in John 18:5-6?

5 “Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “I am he,” Jesus said. (And Judas the traitor was standing there with them.)
6 When Jesus said, “I am he,” they drew back and fell to the ground.

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1 John 5:7 lists the three so-called persons of the Trinity and says they are one. Does this prove the Trinity?

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity


Does Isaiah 9:6 prove the Trinity because it calls Jesus the mighty God?

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”‘

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity


Does the baptismal formula in Matthew 28:19 prove the Trinity Doctrine?
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity →


John 1:1 says the Word was God. Does that mean that Jesus is God because he is the Word?

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

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John 1:18 calls Jesus ‘the begotten God”. Does this prove that Jesus is God and provide support for the Trinity Doctrine?

“No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.”

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity


Is Jesus called the Alpha and Omega in Revelation 1:8, thus making him God?

8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity


Colossians 2:9-10 says that Christ is the fullness of the Deity. Does this make Jesus God?

9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
10 and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.

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Philippians 2:6 says he existed in the form of God. Is this scriptural proof that Jesus is God?
who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,.

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Does Mark 12:36 support the Trinity Doctrine because of the usage of ‘Lord’?

David himself, speaking by the Holy Spirit, declared: “`The Lord said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet.”

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Did Jesus claim to be God in John 10:33 according to an accusation made by some Jews?

“We are not stoning you for any of these,” replied the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

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Was Jesus inferring he was God in John 5:18-19 when the Jews said he was making himself equal with God ?

18 For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
19 Jesus gave them this answer: “I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

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Does the word “us” in Genesis 1:26 mean that God consists of plural persons as the Trinity Doctrine teaches?

Then God said, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity →


Did Jesus infer that he was God in John 10:30 when he said he was one with the Father?

“I and the Father are one”.

Read why this verses does not teach the Trinity →


Hebrews 1:6 states that Jesus is worshipped by angels. Does that make him God?

And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.”

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity →


Does Hebrews 1:8 state that God called Jesus, God?

But concerning the Son, “Your throne O God is forever and ever.”

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity →


Does Isaiah 48:11 support of the Trinity Doctrine because God does not give his glory to another?

For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity →


Does Titus 3:4-6 support the Trinity Doctrine because God is called our saviour?

4 But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared,
5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,
6 whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior,

Read why this verse does not teach the Trinity →


Does Revelation 1:8 & Revelation 1:17-18 prove that God is a Trinity because of the term First and Last?

Revelation 1:8
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.
&
Revelation 1:17-18
And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last.
“I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen.

Read why these verses do not teach the Trinity →


Does Deuteronomy 6:4 and Genesis 2:24 prove that God is a Trinity because ‘one’ means ‘unity’?

Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
&
Genesis 2:24
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

Read why these verses do not teach the Trinity →


Does Isaiah 45:23 & Philippians 2:10-11 read together prove that Jesus is God because we will bow to God?

Isaiah 45:23
By myself I have sworn,  my mouth has uttered in all integrity  a word that will not be revoked:
Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear.
&
Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Read why these verses do not teach the Trinity →


Does 1 Peter 2:6-8 & Isaiah 8:12-15 read together prove that Jesus is God because he is the stumbling stone?

1 Peter 2: 6-8
6 For in Scripture it says: “See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.”
7 Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,”
8 and,“A stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.”

&
Isaiah 8:12-15
11 For Jehovah spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying,
12 Say ye not, A conspiracy, concerning all whereof this people shall say, A conspiracy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be in dread thereof .
13 Jehovah of hosts, him shall ye sanctify; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.
14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
15 And many shall stumble thereon, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.

Read why these verses do not teach the Trinity →


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  • #790454
    DavidL
    Participant

    Saying God has given all power on heaven and earth does not make them God..

    Bodhitharta – the reason God is God is because He has all power on heaven and earth.. if you were given that power you would have to be God by very definition.

    Binding things on earth doesn’t make us God, just as manifesting the miraculous will never make us greater than Christ..

     

    You also made this Husband/Wife comparison is that the way you are believing in the trinity as 3 completely different beings with different abilities that simply have Unity of purpose but are not 1 BEING?

     

    …unity of purpose and singleness of being (just as two are one with God).. this comparison is simply an example that we can easily see showing two separate beings existing as one unit… (seeing there is confusion about this issue regarding the trinity).

     

    Another illustration is body, soul, spirit – each a complete entity in itself… combined to make one being – simple examples that show it’s not that illogical to expect God to exist in a similar fashion… especially when He said, “Let us make man in our image.”

    #790455
    DavidL
    Participant

    Trinity, trinity everywhere you look,

    But people are blind when they read the Book…

    #790456
    DavidL
    Participant

    “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

     

    Jehovah Witnesses re-interpret this verse to say, “…and the Word was a god” to suit their own teaching…. (that Jesus was really Michael the archangel)…

     

    If you don’t agree with this definitive verse, how would you re-word it to explain what you believe concerning the deity of Jesus Christ…?

     

    The Scripture clearly says, “with God – was God”…which is wording that perfectly describes and defines the trinity – separate yet the same.!

     

    #790457
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    It is rather the intellectual vanity of those who claim to see what is NOT written

    Such is of the gnostic heresy.

     

    Where is your third PERSON in Jn 1??

    #790459
    DavidL
    Participant

    As soon as I find your trinity taught in the bible I could agree.

    Otherwise I would be following tradition.

     

    What I share comes from the Bible – please show me anything I have said that comes from tradition..?

     

     

    #790460
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Of course the trinity theory started as a binity theory.

    Are you preferring the latter?

     

    Or do you now realise God had a Son?

    #790461
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Davidl,

    The traditions of men are imbued in the trinity teaching.

    Jesus never taught this so it is a teaching of deceived men to whom the Spirit is foreign.

     

    #790462
    DavidL
    Participant

    The issue with the trinity is the deity of Christ – to deny the trinity (like the JW’s) is to grievously demote Jesus Christ..

    #790463
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    ” Little children guard yourself from idols” 1 jn5

    Man prefers a trinity idol they can put in a box rather than the God of Israel Who sent His Son into the world filled with the Spirit.

     

    #790464
    DavidL
    Participant

    you’re hung up on the word ‘trinity’ because of your background… I believe in the deity of both the Holy Spirit and the Son as equal to the Father, this is refereed to in Scripture as the ‘Godhead’…

    #790465
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    You would not suffer such confusion if you believed what Jesus said about himself.

    #790466
    DavidL
    Participant

    no confusion here…

    #790467
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Yes I have heard this man made GODHEAD is like a business with 3 partners.

    Godhead is found in the KJV and the two times the word is used it means things different from each other and different again to what you appoint.

    Check it out

    #790469
    DavidL
    Participant

    …so now you’re saying the Bible is confusing…?

    #790470
    DavidL
    Participant

    “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

     

    Jehovah Witnesses re-interpret this verse to say, “…and the Word was a god” to suit their own teaching…. (that Jesus was really Michael the archangel)…

     

    If you don’t agree with this definitive verse, how would you re-word it to explain what you believe concerning the deity of Jesus Christ…?

     

    The Scripture clearly says, “with God – was God”…which is wording that perfectly describes and defines the trinity – separate yet the same.!

    #790471
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Acts 10

    “..God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit..”

    Does this mean God anointed God with God??

    #790473
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    So WAS GOD means IS NOT GOD?

    #790474
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    If your faith basis is a god not seen in the bible how can your building stand?

    #790475
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Davidl,

    Why would God need to be anointed?[acts 10]

    heb 7.7

    “But without any dispute the lesser is blessed by the greater”

     

    3 equal persons??

    #790476
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Do you not realise that this theory about God is grossly insulting to him?

    Come out of her my people.

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