A message from a physicist and a message from a flat earther

Physicist

I am a physicist and it comes naturally to me that all planets are spheres mainly because of gravity.

The gravity of a planet is directly proportional to the planet’s mass and inversely proportional to the planet’s radius.

Gravity can be calculated 6.67*10^-11(planet mass/planet radius^2).

This also means that, according to Newton, the earth’s rotation does not have a particularly large effect on gravity.

The sun has the greatest gravitational force in our solar system, approx. 247N/kg or 247 m/s^2, which means that if you fall one meter on the sun, you will hit the “ground” with a speed of 247 m/s. Similarly, 1 kg on the Sun will be 247N, while on Earth 1 kg will only be 9.81N.

We have formulas to calculate the curvature of the earth, and these are very accurate.

Why do some people think the earth is flat? When all scientific findings indicate that all planets are spheres?
All scientific sources on the shape of the plates are available to anyone. Flat earth documentation is not available, logically enough because it doesn’t exist. As a physicist, I must be able to explain observations and natural phenomena through mathematics and scientific models. This is exactly what makes physics so exciting!

A model must be able to explain all phenomena and observations, you can do that on a sphere. On a flat earth it is not possible, so above all one does not use false values.

The globe rotates 360 degrees/24 hours. Our solar system is moving at 600,000m/s towards the center of the Milky Way where there is a gigantic hole with an enormous gravitational force. Since the acceleration is constant, we do not  notice any of this, so Newton’s second law is fulfilled.

If, on the other hand, the earth’s rotation increased or decreased, we would notice it because Newton’s second law will no longer be fulfilled.

I love my subject and am happy to answer questions, but do not respond to sarcasm.

– Physicist

Flat Earther

The earth is flat because I rolled a marble on a table and it disappeared bottom up. Although when I moved my head up a little to be level with the table, it didn’t do that for some reason.

I brought a small boat back into view that was too small to see, although I can’t bring the sun back for some reason.

The bible teaches the world is flat, although I cannot find one verse that teaches this.

The flat earth map is accurate and explains observation, although it doubles and triples distances in the southern hemisphere for some reason. But the southern hemisphere kind of doesn’t matter.

The globe earth conspiracy means millions are in on the secret, yet not one person has leaked the truth despite the anonymity of Wikileaks etc for some strange reason,

The flat earth is hidden from the populace because it proves that God exists. Although the scientific view proves an eternal God because the cosmos is so finely tuned for our existence, that the odds of it being random are greater than 1 in a number bigger than all the atoms of the universe. Further it does demonstrate the eternal nature of God, but it is just too big to give God the glory if you have a simple mind. The pizza model and dome on top which BTW to keeps the pizza warm and contained makes it easier to see that there is a God, although not a very impressive one.

– Flat Earther

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  • #942297
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    Return to the LORD your God, For He is gracious and merciful, Slow to anger, and of great kindness; And He relents from doing harm. Joel 2:13

    #942316
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @genebalthrop

    Danny do you know if you have recieved the , spirit of truth yet?

    Yes, I gave my life to Jesus Christ when I was 16.

    #942317
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    You OC and CO people are the liars and blasphemers!
    Repent before it’s too late!

    And I heard a loud voice saying in Heaven, “Now have come salvation and strength, and the Kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ; for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who accused them before our God day and night.

    #942318
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Yes, I gave my life to Jesus Christ when I was 16.

    Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’

    But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth.

    You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?  Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.  A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.  Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.  Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

    No lie is of God.

    #942322
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    You are acting more and more like your Father the Devil.
    I know that I am saved. You can’t take that away from me.

    #942323
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I do not judge your relationship with God. I can only see fruit and repeat to you that no lie is of God.

    #942344
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    What are the four corners of the earth

    Well there are not four corners on a pizza earth.

    Anyhow, it is probably the four points on a compass. Read the following verse:

    Then it will happen on that day that the Lord
    Will again recover the second time with His hand
    The remnant of His people, who will remain,
    From Assyria, Egypt, Pathros, Cush, Elam, Shinar, Hamath,
    And from the islands of the sea.
    And He will lift up a standard for the nations
    And assemble the banished ones of Israel,
    And will gather the dispersed of Judah
    From the four corners of the earth.

    #942353
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    It is difficult to minister to someone who is deceived because no matter what facts you give they just think they are right. Why? Because they are deceived.

    #942386
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Flat earthers claim they can bring back boats using a zoom lens, although globies say such were never over the horizon to begin with. They were just too small to see in the first place. So my question is this. Why has no flat earther shown a video of the sun being brought back into view with a zoom lens after it has set and disappeared?

    No flat earther has ever shown this proof or even answered the question. The silence is deafening. I can only conclude that they don’t say anything about this easy to do experiment because deep down they know it disproves the flat earth and they do not want to be wrong above all things.

    Sad that pride can go this far.

    #942394
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Why the moon disproves the flat earth

    What is your explanation dabber?

    #942402
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    4481430

    #942403
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Hi Proclaimer,

    Your bring back the sun argument will be solved in this video.
    Start from 28:15 till 30:23.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJK1gLHbOxA

    Not even close @dannyd

    The explanation contradicts itself. It says you can bring back boats, so even you can figure out that if you can do that, then you can bring back the sun.

    But you can’t bring back the sun because the earth has rotated away from the sun. No zoom lens no matter how good can do it because magnification is not going to go around the curve.

    So how are small boats brought back then? Easy. They are not over the curve to begin with. They are too small to be seen, especially if you zoom out beyond the human eye which flatties deceptively do. Then of course, magnification will work.

    Can you admit that this point alone debunks your belief system danny, or will pride continue to make you ignorant due to arrogance?

    #942410
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    I have looked into this.
    The other point is that the sun just fades away.

    Here’s the proof https://www.facebook.com/TheFlatEarthPodcast/videos/the-sun-never-sets-it-just-fades-away/626940824400586/

    #942413
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    @dannyd

    Nope. That is just cloud or mist making it disappear. On a cloudless day, the sun clearly sinks below the horizon. I know because I can watch this anytime I want as I live near the coast. Here is one of my own photos. It does this everyday unless cloud obscures the sun.

    If you really believe the sun just fades away every evening, then how come people who are under the sun at that moment do not see it fade away above their head? Or if you think that it fades away every day because that is what happens when things get too far away, then how come planes, boats, and even the moon do not fade away.

    Flatties are very proud of bringing small boats back using a zoon lens, yet they cannot or do not dare bring back the sun.

    The ball is still in your court. If truth matters to you, then watch the sunset yourself and bring it back just like your compatriots who zoom in and bring small boats back do.

    You won’t be able to do it because the earth is not flat.

    Test all things. Test the spirits. Test your own assumptions. You would do this if truth mattered to you.

    #942423
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Here’s a typical video of a sunset.

    Can’t happen on a flat earth.

    #942428
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    Did you read the comment on this video?
    This person said:
    This fade out observation can NEVER be seen from the ground and with naked eyes. It ONLY can be captured when the air is super clear, dry, cold and from an elevated position with a 4K camera. This is UNDENIABLE proof we are not spinning. I have captured this 5 times now under the same conditions.
    Sun Fade Out Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEzivhxtxgbs-VlztQ7VskQCqABgf7zJo

    #942431
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Lol.

    My photo is from an elevated position and clearly the sun sinks below the horizon. Further, it sinks below the horizon even from the beach. It also sinks below the horizon for all others who watch the sunset. Of course the sun will fade or disappear when clouds obscure it and that is verifiable by anyone with a pair of eyes. If you deny this, then you deny reality which to be honest at this point would come as no surprise to me.

    Further, where I took my photo of the sun going over the horizon is one of the best places in the world to see long distance. It is the exact same spot I took my famous photo of Mt Ruapehu that is 200km away.

    Once again @dannyd, if the truth mattered to you, you would test your own conclusions. If lies bothered you, you would check this out for yourself because anyone can do this. Just find a suitable flat landscape or go to the coast. Wait for the sun to nearly set. Video the sun setting and when it has disappeared, bring it back by zooming in.

    You can’t do it because the earth is not flat. Instead you would observe that the sun sinks below the horizon, the same observation as everyone else. Obviously clouds obscuring the sun may hinder this. But do it on a cloudless day.

    Simple!

    #942446
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    You are obviously not interested in the truth.

    #942470
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    fgg

    #942471
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    You are obviously not interested in the truth.

    You have zero facts and 100% opinions with zero support.

    You ignore 100% of evidence that God created a universe that clearly displays his eternal nature.

    Then all you can do is make a silly comment like a kid and state that I am wrong.

    Lol.

    It is only when we are born of the Spirit that truth really matters to us. Being of the world means being of the god of this world who is the father of lies. This is a fact. This old adage is a true saying.

    “Like father like son”.

    Why do you ignore truth danny and believe in myths?

    It is your life, so you can do what you want of course.

    Just asking the questions.

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