A message from a physicist and a message from a flat earther

Physicist

I am a physicist and it comes naturally to me that all planets are spheres mainly because of gravity.

The gravity of a planet is directly proportional to the planet’s mass and inversely proportional to the planet’s radius.

Gravity can be calculated 6.67*10^-11(planet mass/planet radius^2).

This also means that, according to Newton, the earth’s rotation does not have a particularly large effect on gravity.

The sun has the greatest gravitational force in our solar system, approx. 247N/kg or 247 m/s^2, which means that if you fall one meter on the sun, you will hit the “ground” with a speed of 247 m/s. Similarly, 1 kg on the Sun will be 247N, while on Earth 1 kg will only be 9.81N.

We have formulas to calculate the curvature of the earth, and these are very accurate.

Why do some people think the earth is flat? When all scientific findings indicate that all planets are spheres?
All scientific sources on the shape of the plates are available to anyone. Flat earth documentation is not available, logically enough because it doesn’t exist. As a physicist, I must be able to explain observations and natural phenomena through mathematics and scientific models. This is exactly what makes physics so exciting!

A model must be able to explain all phenomena and observations, you can do that on a sphere. On a flat earth it is not possible, so above all one does not use false values.

The globe rotates 360 degrees/24 hours. Our solar system is moving at 600,000m/s towards the center of the Milky Way where there is a gigantic hole with an enormous gravitational force. Since the acceleration is constant, we do not  notice any of this, so Newton’s second law is fulfilled.

If, on the other hand, the earth’s rotation increased or decreased, we would notice it because Newton’s second law will no longer be fulfilled.

I love my subject and am happy to answer questions, but do not respond to sarcasm.

– Physicist

Flat Earther

The earth is flat because I rolled a marble on a table and it disappeared bottom up. Although when I moved my head up a little to be level with the table, it didn’t do that for some reason.

I brought a small boat back into view that was too small to see, although I can’t bring the sun back for some reason.

The bible teaches the world is flat, although I cannot find one verse that teaches this.

The flat earth map is accurate and explains observation, although it doubles and triples distances in the southern hemisphere for some reason. But the southern hemisphere kind of doesn’t matter.

The globe earth conspiracy means millions are in on the secret, yet not one person has leaked the truth despite the anonymity of Wikileaks etc for some strange reason,

The flat earth is hidden from the populace because it proves that God exists. Although the scientific view proves an eternal God because the cosmos is so finely tuned for our existence, that the odds of it being random are greater than 1 in a number bigger than all the atoms of the universe. Further it does demonstrate the eternal nature of God, but it is just too big to give God the glory if you have a simple mind. The pizza model and dome on top which BTW to keeps the pizza warm and contained makes it easier to see that there is a God, although not a very impressive one.

– Flat Earther

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  • #932285
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Flatties can’t answer this

    questions-flat-earth

    #932286
    Proclaimer
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    Okay so if there is no gravity and you fall down because of density. Why doesn’t the Sun and the Moon fall down, clearly they would be more dense than the air around us.

    #932287
    Proclaimer
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    Any other flat earther care to have a go?

    Didn’t think so. Lol.

    1. The movement of the constellations during the day and year.
    2. The difference between the constellations in the northern and southern hemispheres.
    3. The rotation of the stars; one way in the northern hemisphere, the opposite way in the southern hemisphere.
    4. The moon appearing the other way up in the northern hemisphere compared to the southern hemisphere.
    5. The equinoxes and solstices.
    6. The seasons, including months of daylight followed by months of darkness at both poles.
    7. The higher up the observer, the further they can see. For example France is not visible from Dover docks, but is visible from Dover Castle.
    8. Ships disappearing from the bottom up as they sail away over the horizon and appearing from the top down as they sail towards land. Ditto the land as you sail away or towards.
    9. Lying on my back on a beach and watching the sun set in the west, then seeing it reappear when I stand up so I can watch it set again.
    10. Southern hemisphere distances being wildly wrong on a flat earth.
    #932295
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    The Flat Earth movement is losing members all over the doughnut

    donut-earth

    Just a matter of time when they figure out it is a sphere. Although, it seems like an instance of anything but the truth.

    https://www.sciencenatures.com/2021/11/flat-earthers-now-think-earth-is-shaped.html

    #932299
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    Flat Earth Debunk – Boats brought back over the horizon when zooming in

    Claim: You can zoom in with a good camera and see a boat that just disappeared over the horizon.

    Answer: These videos usually show boats on the near side of the horizon. You can easily make boats disappear when taking a video by zooming out beyond what you see with the natural eye. A shorter focal length shows more landscape so things have to go smaller to compensate.

    #932311
    Proclaimer
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    A photo of the Nile river from space

    Nile

    #932312
    Proclaimer
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    Knitting 50 times more popular than Flat Earth

    knitting-flat-earth-compared

     

    #932315
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    No one saw it coming. The age of Fools. Once shunned before they could become a force, the internet connected fools. Instead of feeling shame, they found like minds and shared their foolishness to the extreme where they found strength in each other. They found security in their foolish ideas and as iron sharpens iron, so their ideas blunted. Whether it is flat earth theory, critical race theory, or gender identity religion, we live in an age of foolishness. Worse still, some of these foolish ideas are protected by political correctness and from power on high. It is a time for intelligent people to gasp and wise people to suffer and endure. Why do we let fools rule us? Because there are too many fools. They have the numbers.

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    Danny Dabbs
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    flat

    #932325
    Danny Dabbs
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    Hi Mike,

    I cannot proof to you that our earth is a globe.
    I’m not a scientist
    I have a question for you:
    What about the many pilots?
    They surely must have told us by now if the earth were really flat.
    Are they all deceitful?

    #932330
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    According to Mike, yes, there is a huge conspiracy involving many people who never say anything to the rest of us. They hide the shape of the earth and instead adhere to a theory that the universe is nearly eternal and so finely tuned that there had to be a creator. So the deception is to believe in a theory that proves God instead of a mere snow globe that would only prove a life form that is superior to us, but likely has his own God. Yes, that is the implication when you think about it. He doesn’t see the end of the road he is travelling down. Pray for him. No lie is of God. The road for fools is a wide one.

    #932331
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    Good point about the elephants by the way. I will reconsider.

    #932336
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    Flat Earth Killer

    flat-earth-killer

    #932340
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    I can’t imagine that all pilots are deceitful.
    I will pray for Mike.

    #932344
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    ISS View of our beautiful planet

    ISS

    #932345
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    Picture of Pluto. Nice globe like the earth. On July 14, 2015, NASA’s New Horizons spacecraft zoomed within 7,800 miles (12,550 kilometers) of Pluto, capturing the first-ever up-close images of that distant and mysterious world

    Pluto

    #932346
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    boat

    #932347
    Proclaimer
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    You don’t have to go south to get to the ice wall. Just go west from California and you’ll arrive at the ice wall. It skirts the flat earth 360 degrees around. If you have to travel south regardless of location, you would’ve just proven the globe.

    #932353
    Danny Dabbs
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    japan

    #932354
    Proclaimer
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    Hi Danny. While Mike had given up  he hasn’t admitted defeat. So I’m using this topic to collect debunks that are simple to understand for flat earthers. Hopefully this will help someone else like Mike who comes here and who thinks the Bible and observation show us a flat earth. Thanks for your contributions.

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