Flat Earthers gather in New Zealand

Flat Earthers hold a conference in Auckland, with speakers from around the globe.

Flat Earth celebrities have flown across the globe to speak at the Flat Earth Expo in Auckland, New Zealand. Flat Earthers believe that we live on a flat plane rather than the accepted globe model. Flat Earthers also believe that most evidence to the contrary is controlled by a giant conspiracy of which NASA is at the forefront.

The Flat Earth model has the north pole in the centre of a flat circular disc and the South Pole as not existing at all. Instead, they believe that Antarctica is a giant encircling ice wall that hems in the world’s oceans. They point out that nearly all of us have never visited Antarctica, thus we rely on the testimony of a few who claim to have visited the frozen continent, and who are mostly lying to us and are part of the conspiracy. Flat Earthers are quick to point out that it is illegal to visit Antarctica. Whether this is true or not, the fact is, it is illegal to do a number of things in any protected wilderness areas of the world of which Antarctica is a special one.

This conference in Auckland comes with a huge opportunity. Flat Earthers flying to New Zealand from the Northern Hemisphere have a unique opportunity to prove to themselves that the Earth is not flat and instead the mostly accepted globe. They only need to travel via South America to New Zealand and note the hours spent getting there will be way less than their Flat Earth model would have you believe. You see, the Flat Earth disc with no south pole has New Zealand, Australia, South America, and Africa many times apart in distance from each other as the globe suggests, simply because, instead of reducing down to a single point we call the South Pole, the area of land in the Southern Hemisphere expands out to the giant ice wall circumference of the whole disc. This projection is similar to how we view Canada, Russia, or even Antarctica on most world maps where they are many times larger on these maps than they are in reality . This is because maps have difficulty projecting a 3D globe onto their 2D canvas. In essence, the Flat Earth model is a 2D construct as it is a flat surface albeit disc shape, so it has the Southern Hemisphere as being much larger in area than it really is.

Sitting in an isolated spot in the Southern Hemisphere, New Zealand gives these Flat Earthers travelling to Auckland the unique opportunity to debunk their own belief. But how many will actually test this out? I am thinking perhaps a few, but most of these guys will just be looking forward to rubbing shoulders with their Flat Earth brothers when they get here and on-route looking out toward the flat horizon because they are simply not flying high enough to see the curve.

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  • #829689
    mikeboll64
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    D4T:  Have a look then…

    Dang, lol!  You’d think for 52 million per day they’d be able to produce some better CGI.  🙂

    I wasn’t aware that clouds morphed every time lightning struck.  🙂

    #829690
    mikeboll64
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    Nick:  To those on earth that is how it will appear when the earth goes through a polar shift.

    What do you know about polar shifts, Nick?  Has it ever happened?  Can it happen at all?  What is the evidence… as opposed to the interpretations of the data?  Polar shifts are just more scientism nonsense that people like you know nothing about, but believe anyway based on nothing more than blind faith in the godless men telling the story.

    Do some research.  Learn to think for yourself.

    #829691
    mikeboll64
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    Nick:  …the stars of the sky fell to the earth, as a fig tree casts it’s unripe figs when shaken by a great wind…

    Do you see the comparison?  Do unripe figs fall to the ground when shaken by a great wind?  Surely you don’t consider figs falling off a tree metaphorical, right?  And if figs really do fall from trees to the ground, then when he compares this real life occurrence to the way the stars will fall to the earth, why do you think the latter is metaphorical?  Is there any scriptural reason to think stars falling from the sky to the earth is metaphorical?

    #829692
    mikeboll64
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    T8:  So what perspective will God speak to us with most of the time? The perspective angels get, the perspective of a tree, God’s complete view, or our perspective? I say our perspective because he is relating to us. 

    So when God says the earth has foundations and pillars, whose perspective is he using?  Surely none of us have seen the earth’s pillars, right?

    #829693
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    T8: “Does Yeshua have a double edged sword coming out of his mouth? If not, then is the Bible incorrect? Atheism or the Bible? See that. This is basically the argument you make here.”

     

    Heb 4:12 For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

    Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

    Rev 1:15-17 His feet were like burnished bronze, when it has been made to glow in a furnace, and His voice was like the sound of many waters. 16 In His right hand He held seven stars, and out of His mouth came a sharp two-edged sword; and His face was like the sun shining in its strength.

     

    Why not let Scripture define Scripture and not try to conceal it?

    What comes out of Yeshua’s mouth? The answer is the Word of God.

    Isn’t it obvious that in Revelation the language used is symbolic? But Scripture always defines the symbolism, as in the above scriptures.

    Is it your contention that Yeshua has a sword coming out of His mouth? Is that how you really understand the scriptures? Or are you just making a point?  ; )

    It is my contention that the language used is the biblical texts that I reference to support the astrological motions are not meant as symbolism but reality. Unless you can show where the symbolism has been defined. Can you do that?

     

     

    #829694
    mikeboll64
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    Nick:  Hi Mike,

    Was Jesus of Nazareth a man, conceived in and born of Mary?

    Yes.  Is that teaching almost always qualified in scripture with the phrase, “according to the flesh”?

    (Let’s see if you can answer a straightforward question with a straightforward answer like I do…)

    #829695
    mikeboll64
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    Okay Kathi, here are the results of my experiments today.  Experiment #1…

    This angle is comparable to the view of Apollo 17 actor holding the flag.  Notice, no sun.

    This is as high as I could aim and still have the building show.  No sun.

    This is what I had to do to have both the building and the sun in the image.

     

    #829699
    mikeboll64
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    Experiment #2…

    The metal structure is my huge mountain in the background, and I am standing in the huge moon crater…

     

    The stalk on the plant is the astronaut standing by the flag with the mountain filling the entire background.  No sun…

    I had to shoot straight up the mountain to have them both in the frame…

    #829703
    mikeboll64
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    Experiment #3…

    I’m fixin’ to land my Prius spacecraft in that crater up yonder…

     

    You can see that I’ve successfully touched down in the heart of the crater, and am surrounded by huge space mountains…

    The sign is the flag.  I have placed the camera on the ground, aiming almost 90 degrees straight up…

     

    Are you ready to acknowledge the problem with the placement of the earth in that wet flag image?

    #829707
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    So you agree with scripture that he began his life in Mary.

    Body, soul and spirit like you and I.

    PS 139.13f

    For you formed my inward parts; you wove me in my mothers womb.

    I will give thanks to you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;

    wonderful are Your works, and my soul knows it very well.

    My frame was not hidden from you, when I was made in secret,

    And skilfully wrought in the depths of the earth;

    my eyes have seen my unformed substance

    and in your book were all written

    the days that were ordained for me

    when, as yet there was not one of them.

     

    Lovely words about the creation of a man like Jesus.

     

    #829708
    mikeboll64
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    Nick: Hi Mike,

    So you agree with scripture that he began his life in Mary.

    With the scriptural qualifier, “according to the flesh”, yes.  He began his fleshly existence in the womb of Mary.  (Interesting how I’m once again answering another one of your questions, as opposed to you answering mine, huh?)

    Nick, do you agree with scripture that some will be born again of water and spirit?  Assuming you do, will this rebirth be how these people began their existence?  Or did they exist prior to the rebirth?  Which one, please?

    #829709
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    Yes.

    Every man is born.

    Some are reborn of water and the Spirit, like Jesus of Nazareth.

     

    Life begins at conception.

    Eternal life is of the Spirit of life.

    The possibility of eternal life begins at rebirth.

    They are given the power to become children of God.

    Do you agree?

    #829710
    mikeboll64
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    Nick:  Some are reborn of water and the Spirit…

    And is the rebirth the beginning of that person’s existence?  Yes or no, please?

    #829711
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    Of course not as explained.

     

    #829712
    mikeboll64
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    So then it’s possible for someone to be born after he’s already existed in a different state?

    #829713
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    No.

    Not if life began at conception from the contribution of two parents..

     

     

    #829714
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    Humans have two parents.

    Do you agree?

    #829716
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    So if you suggest that a being was of one parent only that being is not a man.

    And the woman he was born from is not his mother.

    And that being was unlike to us.

    Do you agree?

    #829717
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Nick: “So you agree with scripture that he began his life in Mary. Body, soul and spirit like you and I.

     

     

    Absolutly Not!!! Did God Almighty conceive you in your mothers womb? Absolutely not! He was not conceived by any earthly father.

    This is doctrine 101. If Yeshua was just another man like you or I, He would be born with a sinfull nature. He was not. Just as the first Adam was unique so was the Last Adam. Both were created in God’s image and not as it says of Seth, “according to his (Adam’s) image”. So Adam was created in God’s image and because of the fall everyone else was created in Adam’s image.

    Nick, are you this confused on the basics?

     

    Gen 5:3 When Adam had lived one hundred and thirty years, he became the father of a son in his own likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth.

     

    Kinda like that’s making a point, don’t you think?

    #829718
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    “According to the flesh”

    Yes well the flesh is from both parents.

    Man is body, soul and spirit as 1 thess 5.23 makes clear.

     

    “According to the Spirit of Holiness” as in Rom 1.4 does not refer to the human spirit but the Spirit of rebirth.

    Do you agree?

     

     

     

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