Is Jesus one of us or is he God?

Let’s be clear. Scripture explicitly states that Jesus is the son of God and we are sons of God. Jesus even calls us brothers because we are part of the same family as him. God never calls us brothers. To him we are his children. This doesn’t sound like Jesus is God does it? 

What does scripture say about who Jesus is. Let’s take a look.

Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters.

Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.

Sons of God

Clearly then, we are the same kind of being as Jesus.

Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well.

So both Jesus and us are sons and children of God. We are never brothers to God and God and Jesus are not brothers either. It is written that we will even have the same glorious body as he does.

who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.

When we are born from above, we are given a new nature, that is divine nature.

by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature

If not divine nature, then we would still be of the flesh and die in our sins. Instead, we are born again, but we currently remain in a state of flux awaiting our resurrection bodies which will put us at rest and always toward the divine and without sin. Currently we live by divine nature and at other times the flesh nature.

So yes, we know that Jesus was begotten of the Father. So what do you suppose our new birth is?

For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.

“Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come”

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name. Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

See. We too are begotten of God.

The difference between redeemed people and Jesus is this. He is the prototype son.

So he is not God as many propose, just as we are not God, even if we have divine nature.

Jesus is the firstborn son among many sons. This is what the Bible teaches.

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    Nick
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    Hi Berean,

    The son of God spent a lot of time explaining his relationship to his Father God, his utter dependence on him and how God Who is in him did His works.

    But folks invented a theory to logically explain what they observed and confusion has ruled the world since that time. Such nonsense has cut men off from access to their loving Father.

    wake up

     

    #944596
    Proclaimer
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    @nick

    Other men invented a theory that Jesus was a man created 2000 years ago as opposed to Jesus Christ coming in the flesh. They deny that he was born the messiah and the Lord.

    They also deny that he is the Word of God.

    They follow a created man apparently.

    #944598
    Nick
    Participant

    Hi PC,

    Jesus of Nazareth, the son of God and Mary, was anointed at the Jordan with the Holy Spirit and power and God did His miraculous works through him.

    Did you think he preexisted and God did not tell us?

    #944601
    carmel
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    You: Did you think he preexisted and God did not tell us?

    He did tell us indirectly, 

    Hereunder are just a handful.

    Genesis 3:15And I will put ENMITY between thee and the woman,

    and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

    Isaiah 11:1 1AND there shall come forth a rod out of THE ROOT of Jesse, and a

    FLOWER shall rise up out of his ROOT.

    Rev. 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.

    I am the ROOT and the OFFSPRING of David,

    and the bright and MORNING STAR.

    Rev13:8 And all the dwell upon the earth adored him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb,

    which was slain from the beginning of the world.

    John 1:1IN the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God.

    3 All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made.

    Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16For in him were all things created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him and in him. 

    17And he is before all, and by him all things consist. 

    John1:30 This is he, of whom I said: After me there cometh a man, who is preferred before me:

    because he was before me. 

    I ran out of time:

     

    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

    #944603
    Nick
    Participant

    Hi Carmel,

    We need to be reborn of the Spirit to attempt to grasp spiritual teachings.

    #944605
    Nick
    Participant

    Hi C,

    compare scripture with scripture.

    Compare Rev 13.8

    with

    Rev 17.8

    and you will see the meaning better.

    #944606
    Nick
    Participant

    Hi PC,

    I have no wish to attempt to grasp spiritual concepts using prehistoric tools like literalism and mere logic.

    Enjoy yourself.

    #944609
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Carmel……Rev 22:16……> I Jesus have sent my angel/ “messenger” , that messenger was John, that testified unto the churches.  not some angelic being, but John who wrote down what he was shown and delivered it to the churches.

    peace and love to you and yours Carmel……….gene

    #946329
    Proclaimer
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    We need to be reborn of the Spirit to attempt to grasp spiritual teachings.

    Correct. The Spirit will not make us believe the opposite of what is written, like many do.

    Rebellious nature is an adversary of truth. Those caught up will even try and justify the lie.

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