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Does 1 John 5:20 call Jesus the true God?

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  • June 1, 2012 at 7:23 am#300381
    journey42
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    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,16:54)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,16:33)
    The holy spirit did not become flesh, the Word did.


    Hi Georgie, they are synonymous with each other. (2 Cor 5:19 explains John 1:14)

    “God was  in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us
    “The word” of reconciliation.” (2 Cor 5:19)

    In the beginning was the Word,
    and the Word was with God,
    and the Word was God.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Thats right Ed

    God's spirit was in Christ. Not a person.
    What exactly are you trying to say?

    June 1, 2012 at 7:27 am#300382
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,16:57)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,16:33)
    So why is the holy spirit not mentioned if it is a person?


    Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the  HolySpirit,
    and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own?
    and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing
    in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto  God.


    That's right Ed,

    If they lied to the holy spirit, then they lied to God. The holy spirit comes from God. It's that link we have with him.
    If we blaspheme the holy spirit, we blaspheme God, theres no difference because we are putting down that truth that comes from God. The spirit of truth.

    But if one does not have the truth in him, then one cannot blaspheme it now can he?

    June 1, 2012 at 9:22 am#300395
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,18:21)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,16:46)
    Hi Georgie,

    Is the spirit of you a person?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Ed

    Our bodies are the temple of God
    What spirit abides in us?
    the spirit of God, or the spirit of the world?

    That spirit in us is not a person.  Then you would have to call God a person, which he is not.  He is so much more than that.  His will is inside us, and we listen to that voice.


    Hi Georgie,

    It is Mike that calls God a person, not me. …God is an entity, not a person.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    June 1, 2012 at 9:24 am#300396
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,18:23)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,16:54)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,16:33)
    The holy spirit did not become flesh, the Word did.


    Hi Georgie, they are synonymous with each other. (2 Cor 5:19 explains John 1:14)

    “God was  in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us
    “The word” of reconciliation.” (2 Cor 5:19)

    In the beginning was the Word,
    and the Word was with God,
    and the Word was God.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Thats right Ed

    God's spirit was in Christ.  Not a person.  
    What exactly are you trying to say?


    Hi Georgie,

    How can you be agreeing with me
    if you don't know what I said?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    June 1, 2012 at 9:30 am#300398
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,18:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,16:57)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,16:33)
    So why is the holy spirit not mentioned if it is a person?


    Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the  HolySpirit,
    and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own?
    and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing
    in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto  God.


    That's right Ed,

    If they lied to the holy spirit, then they lied to God.  The holy spirit comes from God.  It's that link we have with him.
    If we blaspheme the holy spirit, we blaspheme God, theres no difference because we are putting down that truth that comes from God.  The spirit of truth.

    But if one does not have the truth in him, then one cannot blaspheme it now can he?


    Yes Georgie,

    God's Spirit and God's word are both “GOD”;
    like your spirit and your word are both you.

    God's spirit is not another person, and
    God's word is not another person.
    Is that difficult to understand?

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit    .

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    June 1, 2012 at 9:38 am#300404
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2012,18:22)
    Hi J,
    The Holy Spirit only abides in your temple if it has been cleansed and filled.


    Yes nick, and everyone gets a different measure. Housecleaning is often required our whole lives.

    June 1, 2012 at 9:39 am#300405
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,20:22)
    It is Mike that calls God a person, not me.      …God is an entity, not a person.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed

    So why doesn't Mike speak then

    June 1, 2012 at 9:41 am#300408
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,20:24)
    How can you be agreeing with me
    if you don't know what I said?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed

    I'm agreeing with scripture. You didn't write it. I know what it means. But why did you write it to me?

    June 1, 2012 at 9:42 am#300409
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,20:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,20:22)
    It is Mike that calls God a person, not me.      …God is an entity, not a person.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed

    So why doesn't Mike speak then


    What?

    June 1, 2012 at 9:42 am#300410
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,20:30)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,18:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,16:57)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,16:33)
    So why is the holy spirit not mentioned if it is a person?


    Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the  HolySpirit,
    and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own?
    and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing
    in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto  God.


    That's right Ed,

    If they lied to the holy spirit, then they lied to God.  The holy spirit comes from God.  It's that link we have with him.
    If we blaspheme the holy spirit, we blaspheme God, theres no difference because we are putting down that truth that comes from God.  The spirit of truth.

    But if one does not have the truth in him, then one cannot blaspheme it now can he?


    Yes Georgie,

    God's Spirit and God's word are both “GOD”;
    like your spirit and your word are both you.

    God's spirit is not another person, and
    God's word is not another person.
    Is that difficult to understand?

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit    .

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Thats right Ed

    Did I seem like I was opposing?

    June 1, 2012 at 9:44 am#300411
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,20:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,20:24)
    How can you be agreeing with me
    if you don't know what I said?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Ed

    I'm agreeing with scripture.  You didn't write it.  I know what it means.  But why did you write it to me?


    Hi Georgie,

    I have written a lot of things to you; define 'IT'?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    June 1, 2012 at 9:46 am#300412
    Ed J
    Participant

    ]

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,16:54)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,16:33)
    The holy spirit did not become flesh, the Word did.


    Hi Georgie, they are synonymous with each other. (2 Cor 5:19 explains John 1:14)

    “God was  in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us
    “The word” of reconciliation.” (2 Cor 5:19)

    In the beginning was the Word,
    and the Word was with God,
    and the Word was God.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    Do you mean this post?

    June 1, 2012 at 9:50 am#300415
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,20:46)
    ]

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,16:54)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,16:33)
    The holy spirit did not become flesh, the Word did.


    Hi Georgie, they are synonymous with each other. (2 Cor 5:19 explains John 1:14)

    “God was  in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us
    “The word” of reconciliation.” (2 Cor 5:19)

    In the beginning was the Word,
    and the Word was with God,
    and the Word was God.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    Do you mean this post?


    It doesn't matter Ed.

    I don't want to argue or talk about petty things.
    If I am unclear in my responses just let me know.
    If you are agreeing with me and just sharing scripture then let me know. I don't know what you are trying to say is all. Is there anything in my responses that is contrary to truth?

    June 1, 2012 at 10:04 am#300416
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,20:30)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,18:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,16:57)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,16:33)
    So why is the holy spirit not mentioned if it is a person?


    Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the  HolySpirit,
    and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own?
    and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing
    in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto  God.


    That's right Ed,

    If they lied to the holy spirit, then they lied to God.  The holy spirit comes from God.  It's that link we have with him.
    If we blaspheme the holy spirit, we blaspheme God, theres no difference because we are putting down that truth that comes from God.  The spirit of truth.

    But if one does not have the truth in him, then one cannot blaspheme it now can he?


    Yes Georgie,

    God's Spirit and God's word are both “GOD”;
    like your spirit and your word are both you.

    God's spirit is not another person, and
    God's word is not another person.
    Is that difficult to understand?

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit    .

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I believe you missed this post.

    June 1, 2012 at 7:54 pm#300444
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    In what way are you your word?

    June 1, 2012 at 8:22 pm#300452
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2012,06:54)
    Hi ED,
    In what way are you your word?


    Hi Nick,

    It represents our character,
    therefore it is the essence of us.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    June 1, 2012 at 8:25 pm#300453
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    OUT of your mouth comes what the heart is full of.
    Your words EXPRESS you and your thoughts.

    June 1, 2012 at 8:33 pm#300457
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    God's words are “Spirit”. (John 6:63)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    June 1, 2012 at 9:47 pm#300463
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    True.

    June 1, 2012 at 11:21 pm#300478
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,21:04)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,20:30)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,18:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2012,16:57)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,16:33)
    So why is the holy spirit not mentioned if it is a person?


    Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the  HolySpirit,
    and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own?
    and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing
    in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto  God.


    That's right Ed,

    If they lied to the holy spirit, then they lied to God.  The holy spirit comes from God.  It's that link we have with him.
    If we blaspheme the holy spirit, we blaspheme God, theres no difference because we are putting down that truth that comes from God.  The spirit of truth.

    But if one does not have the truth in him, then one cannot blaspheme it now can he?


    Yes Georgie,

    God's Spirit and God's word are both “GOD”;
    like your spirit and your word are both you.

    God's spirit is not another person, and
    God's word is not another person.
    Is that difficult to understand?

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit    .

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I believe you missed this post.


    Hi Ed

    I see what you are trying to say now.  The holy spirit is not a person but it is God because it comes from God.

    “In the beginning the holy spirit said let there be light and there was light”

    “And the holy spirit called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.”

    “And the holy spirit saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually”

    “Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the holy spirit, and him only shalt thou serve”

    “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the holy spirit; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a holy spirit, and they shall be to me a people”

    It doesn't sound right does it?  The holy spirit has an owner, and this owner is identified ..God
    The holy spirit is the power of God. The spirit of truth.

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