Did Jesus Christ exist before his birth on Earth?

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It seems that most who call themselves Christian belong to one of two camps. Jesus is either God or a mere created man. This debate has been raging since the days of Athanasius of Alexandria and Arius.

What the does the Bible say? Well it is quite clear on who Jesus is and his origin. Let’s take a look at what is written.

Scripture says the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and when Jesus returns, his name is called ‘The Word of God’.  (John 1 & Revelation 19:13)

It says that God created all things through THE WORD and nothing was created without him. (John 1:3)

It says that the universe was created through THE SON and he is before all things. (Colossians 1:15-17)

It says that all things were created through JESUS CHRIST. (Hebrews 2:9)

This is what the Bible says about Jesus Christ, the son of the living God, the one named: ‘The Word of God’ who was with God in the beginning.

He emptied himself, took upon himself our nature, was obedient to his God and our God, died for our sins as it is written, and is now in the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos.

Jesus is not God in the flesh, rather the Word who became flesh and dwelt among us. He was with God in the beginning. He was the first to be with God.

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  • #100227
    Not3in1
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    Bumped for newer member
    :)

    #100330
    gollamudi
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    Hi Mandy,
    Thanks for bumping. Of course you might have meant it for Pulivarthy, he is my friend from India a believer of Trinity.

    I want the attention of brother Nick on Jn 1:1
    If he believes the 'word' was another apart from the person God then he is making two Gods in the beginning.

    Love to you
    Adam

    #100334
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GM,
    For us there is one God, the Father.
    Jesus tried to help men get over this stuff.

    Speaking of men in Jn 10 he said

    33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

    34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

    35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

    36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

    Get over it.

    #100336
    gollamudi
    Participant

    May same Jesus help you to know that his Father alone is the True God.

    #100338
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GM,
    Is the Father, the only true God, not your God?
    He is mine.
    Words should not cause you to stumble.

    #100341
    gollamudi
    Participant

    Same is true with you my brother I am trying to say the same.

    #100344
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GM,
    Then tell us what Jesus meant in Jn 10 when he quoted scripture calling men gods.

    #100352
    gollamudi
    Participant

    Judges or people who are appointed by God which does not make them True God.

    #100354
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GM,
    True.
    So what are you trying to say?
    Did you think Jesus was the one true God?
    We do not.

    #100357
    gollamudi
    Participant

    I don't make him at all you people are making Jesus God by saying he was existing as a person who was 'word' in the beginning with God.

    #100361
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GM,
    So what if others were with God too?
    God did use the word “US” when He spoke of making man.
    The sons of God rejoiced when the foundations of earth were laid so they were there too.[jb38]

    #100369
    gollamudi
    Participant

    Elohim(gods or angels) were with God.

    #100370
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GM,
    How can you say that having been so anxious to say so a minute ago?

    #100382
    gollamudi
    Participant

    What god or angels?

    #100383
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GM,
    So GODS were with God?

    #100420
    gollamudi
    Participant

    I take the meaning of Elohim as 'angels' here than 'gods' which all of you claim. Angels were with God when He laid the foundations of the world no Gods my brother.

    #100422
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GM,
    So you withdraw your previous post?
    Make your mind up .

    #100426
    gollamudi
    Participant

    Please see my post I was referring the word 'Elohim” which was meaning as 'angels or 'gods'.
    I always prefer the apt meaning to the context which is 'angels' than 'gods'.

    #100427
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GM,
    Apt, or doctrinally driven?

    #100459
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…….the word Elohim simple means (POWERS) a plural form of Power anyone with powers can be considered an elohim as Jesus plainly said they were gods, But the word Lord God is different, the word Lord (His exists) and GOD means HE who EXISTS with POWERS. He is the ONE AND (ONLY) TRUE GOD>

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