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There are a lot of theories about the origins and spread of the new Coronavirus. This discussion is dedicated to keeping track of the virus and learning the truth about it.

The video below will give an update of the latest info compiled and narrated by Stefan Molyneux.

NOTE: Video is removed as Stefan Molyneux is banned from YouTube.

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  • June 15, 2021 at 3:41 pm#871479
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    China ‘morally on the hook for trillions of dollars’ if COVID-19 came from a lab

    June 15, 2021 at 3:53 pm#871480
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    Exclusive footage proves live bats were kept at the Wuhan Institute of Virology

    The truth was a conspiracy theory not that long ago. And it turns out that officials had huge conflicts of interest. Regardless, anyone with half a brain should have questioned the origin of the virus given that Wuhan is home to a level 4 lab containing deadly viruses. Shows the power of Social Media and MSM coupled with corrupt officials to silence those that questioned the narrative we were given. Remember when questioning this resulted in fact checkers banning your post. As the saying goes, “if you can’t question it, then it’s not science, it’s propaganda”.

    June 28, 2021 at 2:50 am#871690
    gadam123
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    Christianity Offers No Answers About the Coronavirus ?

    For many Christians, the coronavirus-induced limitations on life have arrived at the same time as Lent, the traditional season of doing without. But the sharp new regulations—no theater, schools shutting, virtual house arrest for us over-70s—make a mockery of our little Lenten disciplines. Doing without whiskey, or chocolate, is child’s play compared with not seeing friends or grandchildren, or going to the pub, the library or church.

    There is a reason we normally try to meet in the flesh. There is a reason solitary confinement is such a severe punishment. And this Lent has no fixed Easter to look forward to. We can’t tick off the days. This is a stillness, not of rest, but of poised, anxious sorrow.

    No doubt the usual silly suspects will tell us why God is doing this to us. A punishment? A warning? A sign? These are knee-jerk would-be Christian reactions in a culture which, generations back, embraced rationalism: everything must have an explanation. But supposing it doesn’t? Supposing real human wisdom doesn’t mean being able to string together some dodgy speculations and say, “So that’s all right then?” What if, after all, there are moments such as T. S. Eliot recognized in the early 1940s, when the only advice is to wait without hope, because we’d be hoping for the wrong thing?

    Rationalists (including Christian rationalists) want explanations; Romantics (including Christian romantics) want to be given a sigh of relief. But perhaps what we need more than either is to recover the biblical tradition of lament. Lament is what happens when people ask, “Why?” and don’t get an answer. It’s where we get to when we move beyond our self-centered worry about our sins and failings and look more broadly at the suffering of the world. It’s bad enough facing a pandemic in New York City or London. What about a crowded refugee camp on a Greek island? What about Gaza? Or South Sudan?

    At this point the Psalms, the Bible’s own hymnbook, come back into their own, just when some churches seem to have given them up. “Be gracious to me, Lord,” prays the sixth Psalm, “for I am languishing; O Lord, heal me, for my bones are shaking with terror.” “Why do you stand far off, O Lord?” asks the 10th Psalm plaintively. “Why do you hide yourself in time of trouble?” And so it goes on: “How long, O Lord? Will you forget me for ever?” (Psalm 13). And, all the more terrifying because Jesus himself quoted it in his agony on the cross, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Psalm 22).

    Yes, these poems often come out into the light by the end, with a fresh sense of God’s presence and hope, not to explain the trouble but to provide reassurance within it. But sometimes they go the other way. Psalm 89 starts off by celebrating God’s goodness and promises, and then suddenly switches and declares that it’s all gone horribly wrong. And Psalm 88 starts in misery and ends in darkness: “You have caused friend and neighbor to shun me; my companions are in darkness.” A word for our self-isolated times.

    The point of lament, woven thus into the fabric of the biblical tradition, is not just that it’s an outlet for our frustration, sorrow, loneliness and sheer inability to understand what is happening or why. The mystery of the biblical story is that God also laments. Some Christians like to think of God as above all that, knowing everything, in charge of everything, calm and unaffected by the troubles in his world. That’s not the picture we get in the Bible.

    God was grieved to his heart, Genesis declares, over the violent wickedness of his human creatures. He was devastated when his own bride, the people of Israel, turned away from him. And when God came back to his people in person—the story of Jesus is meaningless unless that’s what it’s about—he wept at the tomb of his friend. St. Paul speaks of the Holy Spirit “groaning” within us, as we ourselves groan within the pain of the whole creation. The ancient doctrine of the Trinity teaches us to recognize the One God in the tears of Jesus and the anguish of the Spirit.

    It is no part of the Christian vocation, then, to be able to explain what’s happening and why. In fact, it is part of the Christian vocation not to be able to explain—and to lament instead. As the Spirit laments within us, so we become, even in our self-isolation, small shrines where the presence and healing love of God can dwell. And out of that there can emerge new possibilities, new acts of kindness, new scientific understanding, new hope. New wisdom for our leaders? Now there’s a thought.

    ———- BY N.T. WRIGHT

    July 2, 2021 at 4:38 pm#871748
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    Christianity Offers No Answers About the Coronavirus ?

    Hilarious. Was it suppose to be mentioned in the New Testament? Was Jesus suppose to say that Coronavirus would hit Earth in 2019?

    There are lots of things not mentioned in the New Testament and the Old Testament too.

    Take a look at the size of the New Testament and now look the the last 2000 years of history. Let’s imagine that there are 2000 pages. That is each page would be a year of world’s history. Should it include cricket scores?

    Anyway, The New Testament doesn’t predict events so much as paints the narrative of the end times which are signs.

    We must also bear in mind that Jesus said that one of the signs would be plagues / pestilence.

    and there will be great earthquakes, and in various places plagues and famines; and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven.

    1. Great earthquakes ✓
    2. Plagues ✓
    3. Great signs from heaven ✓
    July 14, 2021 at 8:50 pm#872062
    Berean
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    Hi Proclaimer

    What do You think of That vidéo?

    https://www.brighteon.com/3054c651-c43a-4a02-8aa3-3333a08a7689

    have a good day

    July 14, 2021 at 10:00 pm#872064
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    It’s interesting.

    My wife’s parents were vaccinated two months ago.

    So far no problems, but will obviously monitor the situation.

    I’m eligible soon to get vaccinated, but might wait.

    Although was thinking to get it early to monitor it on behalf of my family.

    July 15, 2021 at 5:22 am#872083
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    Hi afin

    I was able to get the opinion of my brother-in-law who is a doctor. Here is what he says about this Japanese doctor.

    “I understood 90% of what this Japanese doctor said, he says right things about the immune system and others are much more questionable.
    But the main misconception is that the immune system is naturally capable of clearing the virus quickly as soon as it enters the throat. If so, why were there deaths?
    He also says that the 2nd injection should be avoided otherwise it could trigger serious immune phenomena, without any proof and with speculative arguments. None of this has been observed.
    He says that the lymphocytes will attack the walls of the blood vessels. This is wrong because these walls are protected by markers of Self recognition.
    In short, he uses scientific data by misinterpreting them because not a specialist in immunology.
    I also saw that his site is from the Darknet, refused by you tube and other media.
    To be taken with a grain of salt!”

    I don’t Know if the translation is very good: (To be taken with a grain of salt!)

     

    July 15, 2021 at 6:00 am#872084
    gadam123
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    It’s interesting.

    My wife’s parents were vaccinated two months ago.

    So far no problems, but will obviously monitor the situation.

    I’m eligible soon to get vaccinated, but might wait.

    Although was thinking to get it early to monitor it on behalf of my family.

    I think these findings may not be based on the practical data. Every country is insisting for second dose of Vaccine to get full immunity from the Virus. My family, my wife and son already got two doses and mine (2nd dose) is due on 21st and my daughter who is a junior doctor also taken only single dose. No such side affects observed. I heard about one death in our my area even after getting two doses.

    I think the main criteria is the exposure to virus as the virus is mutating from place to place. The Vaccination may not be a full proof.

    July 17, 2021 at 11:16 am#872117
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    I believe that vaccination is a proven way to eradicate or nearly eradicate viruses.

    My only concerns is that vaccines usually take a long to time to develop and test to make sure they are safe.

    These Covid vaccines were rushed out the door and for obvious reasons.

    Here in New Zealand we are behind the rest of the word for rolling out the vaccines, because there is no urgency as the virus is not out in the general populace.

    This gives us a unique opportunity to see if there are issues with the vaccines.

    In saying that, I am eligible due to my age to be near the front of the queue.

    I am in two minds about that.

    Take the vaccine early, monitor the situation, and if all good, then my family gets vaccinated.

    Or wait to see how things develop in countries that vaccinated early.

    August 15, 2021 at 8:14 pm#872800
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    China Invents Fake Swiss Scientist For Wuhan Lab Propaganda

    Why lie if you have nothing to hide.

    August 25, 2021 at 9:08 am#873081
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    Hi To all

    When Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Catholics, Orthodox, Baptists, Mormons, Pentecostals, Adventists, Mennonites and Lutherans Refuse Covid-19 Vaccinations for Religious Reasons

    In the Misiones Province of Argentina, located in the northeastern corner of the country, there is found one of the most religiously diverse communities in all of Argentina. And even though there are plenty of Covid-19 vaccines to go around, the religious communities have refused to have anything to do with them.

    In Misiones, since the start of the pandemic, worship services have been suspended for less than two months. They reopened in May 12 last year, and although a maximum capacity limit was imposed (today it is 50% of the capacity of each church), this has never prevented churches from having open-air worship services or various radio or television broadcasts.

    Health officials recently tried to step up vaccination efforts in some of the rural areas of the province. In an area where only 10% of the population has been vaccinated, a health delegation traveled to that part of the town “and failed to apply more that 100 doses in a radius of 200 kilometers.” The resistance was “very noticeable.” The health delegation was greeted with “demonstrations and insults.” [1]

    According to the National Registry of Churches, Misiones, Argentina contains 3,217 creeds. These faiths include Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hinduism, Catholics, Orthodox, Baptists, Mormons, Pentecostals, Adventists, Mennonites, Lutherans, Byzantine Rite, Umbandistsm, Kimbandists and others.

    “In accidents and calamities by sea and by land, in great conflagrations, in fierce tornadoes and terrific hail-storms, in tempests, floods, cyclones, tidal waves, and earthquakes, in every place and in a thousand forms, Satan is exercising his power. He sweeps away the ripening harvest, and famine and distress follow. He imparts to the air a deadly taint, and thousands perish by the pestilence. These visitations are to become more and more frequent and disastrous. Destruction will be upon both man and beast. “The earth mourneth and fadeth away,” “the haughty people … do languish. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.” [Isaiah 24:4, 5.]” (Great Controversy, p. 590).

    “And then the great deceiver will persuade men that those who serve God are causing these evils. The class that have provoked the displeasure of Heaven will charge all their troubles upon those whose obedience to God’s commandments is a perpetual reproof to transgressors. It will be declared that men are offending God by the violation of the Sunday-sabbath, that this sin has brought calamities which will not cease until Sunday observance shall be strictly enforced, and that those who present the claims of the fourth commandment, thus destroying reverence for Sunday, are troublers of the people, preventing their restoration to divine favor and temporal prosperity.” (Great Controversy, p. 590).

    Sources

    [1] http://diario1588.com/2021/08/no-se-inmunizan-por-motivos-religiosos/

    August 25, 2021 at 10:57 am#873082
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    I’ve been to Misiones. It has an interesting story about the Jesuits and the community they created. It is home to mate, a coffee like drink that many South American footballers drink before matches. One of the world’s wonders is located here. Iguazu Falls. Here are some pics I took about 12 years ago.

    https://geographic.media/location/south-america/brazil/brazil-photos/iguacu-falls-photos/

    August 25, 2021 at 7:12 pm#873084
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    impressive these waterfalls that I will certainly never see. But God has promised us if we are overcomers to be able to contemplate the river of the water of life which is in paradise.
    He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches: To him who overcomes I will give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.
    Rev. 22
    And he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, which proceeded from the throne of God and of the Lamb.

    22: 2 In the middle of the town square and on the two banks of the river there was a tree of life, bearing fruit twelve times, yielding its fruit every month, and the leaves of which were used for the healing of the nations.

    22: 3 There will be no more curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city; his servants will serve him and see his face,

    September 5, 2021 at 7:31 pm#873438
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    In New Zealand, we are winning the battle against Delta.

    But we have a low amount of vaccinated people.

    I am on my first shot.

    So far so good for me. No side effects.

    September 5, 2021 at 7:47 pm#873440
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    September 5, 2021 at 7:49 pm#873441
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    From pandemic to endemic

    September 5, 2021 at 11:42 pm#873448
    gadam123
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    In New Zealand, we are winning the battle against Delta.

    But we have a low amount of vaccinated people.

    I am on my first shot.

    So far so good for me. No side effects.

    It’s good to know that. Please advise people to take Vaccine without any fear. My whole family got Two shots and they are safe.

    September 6, 2021 at 10:29 am#873480
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    Great. I can’t wait for this whole thing to blow over.

    But I do worry about germ warfare in the future.

    If a country creates a serious virus and the vaccine to boot, that would be an effective weapon and much cheaper to create than say nukes or other military hardware.

    And something tells me that some countries would use it.

    September 7, 2021 at 6:17 pm#873545
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    September 8, 2021 at 6:36 pm#881921
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    $3.1M for Bat Coronavirus Research in Wuhan Virology Lab

    Newly Released Docs

    And Big Tech censorship. 

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