Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2011,16:35)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Jan. 15 2011,08:27)BUMPED FOR MIKEBOLL:TO ALL:Mikeboll has dogmatically claimed that Jesus is a god who “came into being” after YHWH. Keith has corrected Mike about this many times but Mike has given Keith a deaf ear. Isaiah 43:10 explicitly says that before and after YHWH there was…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2011,15:00)because it is God the father that saves not Christ ,Christ is only the mediator of the grace of God the father.Wow, so Jesus is not your Savour?Really? Do you think you can be saved without Jesus? Why is it the scritpures say it is only by the “Name of Jesus” that men can be saved? “Neither is there salvation…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2011,15:00)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 16 2011,11:54)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2011,11:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 16 2011,08:29)Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 14 2011,16:51)So when you pray KJ and WJ do you pray to Jesus ? Just wondering.terrariccaWhy, you don't pray to Jesus? How can you be saved unless you “call on…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Jan. 15 2011,14:57)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 16 2011,05:15)Quote (princess @ Jan. 15 2011,12:52)Quote Context Like Genesis 1:1 tells us “Elohim” is God almightyno it does not, in the beginning el created heaven and earth. there is no description given that reflects who el is?Princess first off “el” is not the Hebrew word in…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Jan. 15 2011,14:22)many languages stem from other languages wj, the greek has a few stages, hebrew as well, latin stays close to itself.PrincessThen what do you base your faith on? Please don't tell me the scriptures, because the scriptures were translated by the Forefathers and translated into English by Biblical Hebrew and…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Jan. 15 2011,13:39)it is not surprising to me that you would tell me i do not understand scriptures, due to the fact that my forefathers, experts have already have it all figured out, so i should blindly follow what they have to say and not question the matter.PrincessFirst I didn't say you don't understand them, I said…[Read more]

Quote (francis @ Jan. 15 2011,12:50)Now, this does not PROVE that they are correct.  But that is not the point. (only in math is absolute proof possible)  The point is that it is you who  is disagreeing with the vast majority of scholars.  So it is you who has the burden of proof to demonstrate conclusively (you have irrefutable logic on your sid…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Jan. 15 2011,12:52)Quote Context Like Genesis 1:1 tells us “Elohim” is God almightyno it does not, in the beginning el created heaven and earth. there is no description given that reflects who el is?Princess first off “el” is not the Hebrew word in Genesis 1:1, ” elohiym” was. Secondly are you saying Moses didn't know the “One…[Read more]

Hi AllIn the debates thread Mike asked Francis a quesiton which I am quiet sure Francis can answer even better than I. But I will answer his question even though it is a loaded question…Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2011,12:32)Does having the word “elohim” applied to one necessarily mean that one is God Almighty?  YES or NO?No it depends on…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Jan. 15 2011,11:55)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 16 2011,01:32)That is unless of course that Jesus is God and not “a god” that came in the flesh. John 1:1-14 – Phil 2:6-8 – Heb 1:8 Blessings Keithwj, either or, your using the concept in your teachings, you can manipulate your god to be either, flesh or spirit, covering all…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Jan. 15 2011,12:01)jacki bow to no man that calls himself a god, will you? much love to you jackHiYou must be talking about Mikebol for he says we are all gods! WJ

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2011,11:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 16 2011,08:29)Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 14 2011,16:51)So when you pray KJ and WJ do you pray to Jesus ? Just wondering.terrariccaWhy, you don't pray to Jesus? How can you be saved unless you “call on the name of Jesus“, and how can you call on him when you can't see him unless you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2011,11:31)You know what, guys?  I thought I could have an intelligent discussion with you.  You have failed me.Let's just nip this in the bud:MikeYes of course you are the “Only One” around here that can carry on an intelligent conversation. In fact you know more than James Strong, Mathew Henry, AT Robertson, the A…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2011,11:22)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 16 2011,02:50)MikeDoes “Elohim” in Genesis 1:1 mean “Supernatural Supreme Being”?No Keith, it doesn't.  “Elohim” in Gen 1:1 means “leader” and that word is APPLIED to the One who we know from context is the “Suprenatural Supreme Being”. MikeSo Moses said “In the beginnig a…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2011,10:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2011,18:43)So……………DO YOU AGREE that the word in and of itself doesn't mean one is “God”?Yes, Context Mike.WJQuote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2011,11:01)The above is actually what you said, Keith.  You said “YES”, the word itself doesn't mean one is God.Mike please stop…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2011,11:01)The above is actually what you said, Keith.  You said “YES”, the word itself doesn't mean one is God.But I also said context didn't I Mike.You have totally denied this fact.WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2011,10:45)In fact, there is much evidence to the contrary, seeing how the word was often applied to mere humans.This is laughable. Mike have you actually counted how many times in the Bible the word “Elohim and Theos” refer to the One True God in contrast to men?You want to flip that upside down.  WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2011,10:45) I don't claim that James Strong was “dishonest”.  He does leave out the fact that both the Canaanite god Molech and the Philistine god Dagon were both called by the title “elohim”.  And since they were neither “the SUPREME GOD” nor were they magistrates who had the title “by deference” TO “the SUPREME G…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2011,10:45)And if the word never meant “Supernatural Supreme Being”, the the bottom line is that having this title applied to one did not make that one the “Supernatural Supreme Being”.MikeDoes “Elohim” in Genesis 1:1 mean “Supernatural Supreme Being”?Case and point. Jesus is a “Supernatural Supreme Being” is he not?BTW…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Jan. 15 2011,10:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 16 2011,02:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2011,09:56)Keith has finally agreed to this FACT………will you, D?  How about you, Jack?  Francis?MikeKeith has only agreed that the words “elohim and theos” in context do identify “God Almighty” and Moses has proven that by t…[Read more]