Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2011,17:43)Keep asking questions, that's how you learn!EDWhy should I keep asking you questions when you give me no answers? Can you show me in those scriptures the words “Son of the Holy Spirit” or the words “The Father is the Holy Spirit”?The scripture you posted does not say that Jesus is the Son of the Holy Spirit or that…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2011,16:42)Hi Jack,Here is what the Scriptures say…Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.Hebrews 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,15:06)Hi Keith:Here are a couple of scriptures for you to ponder:Quote 10Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Nothing about the Holy Spirit in that verse. Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28…[Read more]

Hi MartyHow are you going to pull that off in your organization? That not only are the scriptures corrupted because Matt 28:19 shouldn't be there, but also that the Father is the Holy Spirit and Jesus is the Son of the Holy Spirit?  WJ

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:55)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2011,06:34)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:30)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2011,06:19)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:11)Hi WJ:Quote Matthew 1:20But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2011,06:36)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:32)Hi WJ:I  have already made it plain to you what I believe.Love in Christ,MartyOKSo why can't you vote? I put your option in there.WJHi Keith:It is your thread.  So, if you want convince others, that you are correct in what you t…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:32)Hi WJ:I  have already made it plain to you what I believe.Love in Christ,MartyOKSo why can't you vote? I put your option in there.WJ

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:30)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2011,06:19)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:11)Hi WJ:Quote Matthew 1:20But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife:FOR THAT WHICH IS CONCEIVED  IN HER…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:27)WJ:I don't see that you voted, and if you did, for the sake of my understanding you, what are you saying about the Holy Spirit.Love in Christ,MartyMarty You don't see I voted because you have not voted.WJ

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:22)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2011,06:14)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:02)None of those scriptures state that the Holy Spirit is the “Third Person” of a Tri-une God.But there are various scriptures which state that the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit.Love in Christ,MartyMartyWhat those scriptures show is the…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:15)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2011,06:08)Hi AllIt is believed by some that the Holy Spirit that the Father and Jesus sent is God the Father himself.Some believe the Holy Spirit is merely a “force or power” from God the Father.Others believe he is a distinct person who is subservient to the Father and Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:11)Hi WJ:Quote Matthew 1:20But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife:FOR THAT WHICH IS CONCEIVED  IN HER IS OF THE HOLY GHOST.And so, according to “Triniatarian” that which is…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,14:02)None of those scriptures state that the Holy Spirit is the “Third Person” of a Tri-une God.But there are various scriptures which state that the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit.Love in Christ,MartyMartyWhat those scriptures show is the Holy Spirit is distinct and not the Father. Did you even bother looking at…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,13:37)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2011,05:18)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,13:13)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2011,05:07)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,12:20)I said that the Holy Spirit if God's person, “He” but not a “Third Person”.MartyIf the “He” is Gods person then the “He” is the Father. Right?If not who…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,13:13)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2011,05:07)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,12:20)I said that the Holy Spirit if God's person, “He” but not a “Third Person”.MartyIf the “He” is Gods person then the “He” is the Father. Right?If not who is “He”?So once again…”Is the Holy Spirit the Father of Jesus?“”Is Jesus the…[Read more]

Hi MartyQuote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,12:20)Also in 1 Co. 2 the scriptures compare God and His Spirit knowing His thoughts to your spirit knowing your thoughts, and so now, answer my question to you.  Is your spirit a different person than you?NoBut I am not God and I can't say my spirit searches the deep things of Keith. I can't say that I will…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2011,12:20)I said that the Holy Spirit if God's person, “He” but not a “Third Person”.MartyIf the “He” is Gods person then the “He” is the Father. Right?If not who is “He”?So once again…”Is the Holy Spirit the Father of Jesus?“”Is Jesus the Son of the Holy Spirit?“A simple Yes or No should be your answer.WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 27 2011,20:34)Hey Keith, You SEEMED mad about it to me, judging from your posts.  So you can say I am “mistaken”, but don't say I'm “lying”.MikeI think you think everyone is mad at you. But I could be mistaken. Ok I shouldn't have said lying. Sorry! I humbly apologize.WJ

Hi AllIn the Debate with Mike Francis says…Quote (francis @ Jan. 28 2011,10:43)Since no one can absolutely and irrefutably prove anything outside of math, then it is clear that I am not going to attempt to absolutely and irrefutably prove that the Trinitarian position is correct.  What I'm going to do is attempt to prove that my position is a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 27 2011,18:47)Yeah, but Keith's title isn't confusing at all is it?    Jack just did the same thing last night, but accidentally posted it in the debate instead of here.    Yet Keith got all mad at me for having t8 move this one from the debate section to help stop the confusion!       mikeHey MikeYou are lying agains…[Read more]