Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 07 2011,16:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 04 2011,08:10)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2011,15:14)Hi WJ and Jack,Does god procreate? (Ps.82:6 / Rom.8:16)Do you consider yourself a “Son of God”?No, God doesn't procreate. God creates sons.However Jesus is not one of the “sons” for he is the “Only Begotten Son” who was always…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 07 2011,16:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2011,07:28)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 07 2011,15:22)Mikeboll said:Quote If YHVH being at David’s right hand is doing the works then that means that David to everyone else is “equal” to YHVH, unless you are saying they are David’s works and not YHVHs.The word “adonay…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2011,21:11)Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 06 2011,11:31)provoke not one another into sin (anger)Hi HappyMan,Did Jesus provoke the Pharisees to 'anger'?EDI thought you said we were brothers? Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. Paul said not to provoke one another!WJ

Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 05 2011,19:31)provoke not one another into sin (anger)Thankyou!WJ

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 07 2011,15:22)Mikeboll said:Quote If YHVH being at David’s right hand is doing the works then that means that David to everyone else is “equal” to YHVH, unless you are saying they are David’s works and not YHVHs.The word “adonay” means “MY Lord” (God). Are you saying that YHWH is calling Himself, “MY Lord”? Or are you…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 07 2011,15:06)Youngs Literal Translation has it worded as this;He who is overcoming — I will give to him to sit with me in my throne, as I also did overcome and did sit down with my Father in His throne.Which could mean slightly different. Actually it look's more like two. Father and Son with two thrones.ShimmerHow is it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 06 2011,11:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 06 2011,09:06)If YHVH being at David’s right hand is doing the works then that means that David to everyone else is “equal” to YHVH, unless you are saying they are David’s works and not YHVHs.Are you for real, Keith? Because God fights for David, now David is EQUAL to his God…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 06 2011,22:12)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2011,05:48)Boy you sound upset. Of course I would say what? That “It “APPEARS”” here that satan is greater than Jesus”? I only quoted your own words…You didn't quote my words, you added that one was 'greater' than the other when I make no such statement. You are clearly false on th…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 06 2011,22:15)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2011,05:48)So Jesus is not telling the truth when he said……”ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH”.Matt 28:18Ha ha ha.Can you not see it.It is GIVEN to him.Who is greater, the giver or the receiver?If Jesus receives this authority, then who is it that gives it to him? A…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 06 2011,12:08) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 06 2011,09:42)What does “One Lord” or “Only Master” mean to you Mike?It means that they may have had slaves who had earthly masters but who was their “One Lord” and “One Master”?Slaves, obey your human mastersNow you're getting my point.  Do you see how “ONLY” doesn't…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 06 2011,22:21)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2011,05:48)And your point is? The Father does not speak apart from the Son does he? Heb 1:1.“Truly, truly I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like m…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2011,21:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 06 2011,07:13)Ha Ha MikeIt doesn't matter to me what you think. I will take AT Roberstsons word over yours everyday, not to mention the scriptures and the Holy Spirit that testifys that Jesus is My Only Master and Lord and God.WJHi WJ,(Jeremiah 15:5..7) Cursed be the man that trusteth…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2011,19:45)I'm glad you decided to study instead of criticize; it shows us all your maturity in Christ, Jesus!Titus 2:13-14 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2011,17:53)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 06 2011,09:06)MikeThe problem is the JWs along with the NWT translating committee are not scholars are they Mike?  WJHi WJ,What do you believe it takes to be a “scholar”?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEDIt takes formal training in the Biblical languages…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 06 2011,15:37)Keith, if Jesus is at the right hand OF God, then he can't BE God.MikeBut if he sits IN the “Throne of God” then he must be God or equal to him, right?The right hand shows equality. For all things comes from him (Jesus) to us. Through him (Jesus) we live and by him all things consist.WJ

Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 06 2011,15:04)The throne belongs to the Father, and the father alone. Then Jesus is 'GRANTED' to sit 'At the Right Hand' of his Father, of his God for a while. If Jesus is God, how does he not already sit ON the throne, how is he not owning the throne, but only Granted to sit there…for a while?ShimmerSo do you support this…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 06 2011,14:51)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 06 2011,07:48)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 05 2011,15:38)Show me where any mention is made that the Holy Spirit is a “Third Person” of a Tri-une God.MartyI already have and you have rejected them. There are more. So yes, let God judge between me and you who accepts the inspired word of God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2011,15:41)And you must be joking about the “Master and Lord” stuff, right?  CONTEXT, Keith.  Doesn't Paul teach that slaves were to be obedient to their earthly masters?  Hmmmm………….but we can only serve ONE master, so how could the slaves that heard Paul's teaching serve their earthly master since they were on…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2011,16:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 06 2011,03:14)You see Mike, Jesus doesn't rule by proxy because unlike every other Savour or King, Jesus literally has all things and all judgment and authority and power. It is Jesus that does the works. It was also by his own Life and Blood that he saved us and redeemed us unto…[Read more]

MikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2011,15:25)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 06 2011,03:14)This is more JW bunk.Really Keith?    They backed up this FACT with at least 5 scriptures, right?  Yet it is “bunk”?It is bunk because it does not prove inequality. If YHVH being at David’s right hand is doing the works then that means that David to ever…[Read more]