Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,19:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,17:58)MikeIt seems altogether unlikely that immediately after Christ had solemnly promulgated the trinitarian formula of baptism, the Apostles themselves would have substituted another. IN FACT, THE WORDS OF ST..PAUL (ACTS 19) IMPLY QUITE PLAINLY THAT THEY DID NOT. What…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 11 2011,03:20)What is your point?T8My point is you can’t identify a “Rock” unless you identify its nature or substance. And you can't identify God unless you also identify context or his nature or how could you tell that he is not “The God” of this world?That is basic stuff. You insist that you can separate identity with natur…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,18:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,12:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2011,19:07)Btw, I was expecting an apology for accusing me of leaving that part out when I didn't.You are not getting an appology Mike because you have left out part of it several times you quoted it and you misrepresent the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,18:32)Even the trinitarian scholars “WONDER” about it.  But not Keith.You say “Trinitarian scholars”?Where are they Mike? WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,18:32)Here's what you have on your side of this:1.  There has yet to be found (at least admittedly) a ms that doesn't say, “the Father, Son and Holy Spirit”.2.  The scripture, as is, could be understood to be talking about ONE NAME that encompasses all three.Boom! Checkmate!There is no greater evidence than over 5…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,18:32)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,11:45)Your doubt of Matt 28:19 which is unambiguous is proof to me that no matter what, your doctrine is more important than the written word in the Bible. Even the JWs admit it is scripture!Keith, 28:19 doesn't affect “my doctrine” in the least.  What 28:19 does is…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 10 2011,18:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2011,02:50)t8God is not a name is it t8? But even if I had my Fathers name you would know that my Father and I are human wouldn't you?Correct.Father is not a name either.For us there is one God the Father.So now you have even less excuse to deny this.Yes we know that we have human…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 10 2011,18:27)I have answered this before.adam consists of all humans including Adam himself.Good t8And God consist of Jesus and the Holy Spirit since they are part of the God kind.WJ

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 10 2011,18:25)When we have THE Adam or THE God, you are identifying a particular person or God.Are you sure? How do you know?What if I said Joe believes that “The God” he serves is his money?Does that identify the One True God?How do you know if it is the One True God unless you identify his nature?WJ

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2011,18:18)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2011,17:02)Ed No the spin is you.Are there not Three mentioned in Mattew 28:19 with the definite article?WJWJyes but one is a thing not a personPierreProve it using scripture!WJ

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2011,18:13)WJwere are my answers ??PierreI didn't think you would be honest enough to back up your promise to answer my question when I answered yours.Don't worry about it because you fall in the “unbeliever of all scripture in the Bible group” anyway. No matter what I say you will just deny the scriptures if it…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 10 2011,18:08)One Adam,and many adams or one adam which is a group made up of all humanity.First off, the top example is talking about the first man and the second is all humanity.Not so fast t8Is the first Adam also not part of the second adam example?Is Adam also not part of humanity?Your logic fails and is a weak way to try and…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2011,18:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2011,09:22)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2011,16:57)You 'clipped' my answer…   and then insinuate  I didn't answer this question. EdI am shortening the post like t8 said and I didn't take you out of context.WJHi WJ,I didn't accuse you of any wrong doing?…   more 'spin' huh?Bye ED…[Read more]

Ed No the spin is you.Are there not Three mentioned in Mattew 28:19 with the definite article?WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,17:38)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,11:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2011,19:07)WHAT EXACTLY IS THIS “ONE NAME” THAT ENCOMPASSES FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT?The Apostles DID baptize in one name, the name JESUS CHRIST.  Do you think the Father and the Holy Spirit share the name JESUS CHRIST with the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 09 2011,16:45)If I say, the sculpture is made of wood and rock, then I am not identifying a specific rock as such, but am talking about the substance in general.t8And the substance of the Rock is still the Rock.The substance of God is still God.To easy for you I guess. WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2011,20:24)Hey smart guys!  I only have one simple question for you.  I wonder if you'll answer it HONESTLY and DIRECTLY.    Because there is ONLY ONE HONEST AND DIRECT ANSWER TO IT.  Is it GRAMMATICALLY POSSIBLE to translate the Greek words in John 1:1c into English as “and the Word was a god”?YES or NO?m…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 09 2011,21:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,03:42)JackI wonder if Mike got his material from Watchtower again?  WJEqually KJ might have got his stuff from the Vatican.After all the Catholic faith is the Trinity doctrine.The Cathoilic faith is …..TrinityYepThe Catholic church also believes in Jesus death, burial and…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2011,16:57)You 'clipped' my answer…   and then insinuate  I didn't answer this question. EdI am shortening the post like t8 said and I didn't take you out of context.WJ

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2011,16:57)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2011,08:26)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2011,16:15) Quote  Why are the scriptures replete with examples of the Holy Spirit being “another” and not the Father or the Son?              This is a 'SPUN' question! The error is in your question, not any answer you might expect to here&#0…[Read more]