Quote So you admit that your template is Greek thinking.Created and non-created.No wonder you force Jesus as God.Paul knowing the pride of the Greeks and their philosophy preached Jesus crucified, an offence to them.So it is that I say unto you, Jesus Christ of Nazareth died for your sins and was raised up to the right hand of God. He now…[Read more]

Quote To WorshippingJesus.It's not hogwash.It is written that God created all things through Christ.It is written that the head of the woman is man, the head of the man is Christ, and head of Christ is God. i.e., God > Christ > ManIt is written that there is one mediator between God and Man.It is written that Christ is the Word and the Word was…[Read more]

Quote Maybe so, but who is defending the Arian view?If Arius said that Jesus was a creature, then I do not agree.If he said that he was begotten then I agree. t8 No but Arius because he believed Jesus was a creature meant that he wasnt God.So I still see this as a dirivation of the Arias views.Creator or created.

Quote It was not until the 4th century that the distinctness of the three and their unity were brought together in a single orthodox doctrine of one essence and three persons. The Council of Nicaea in 325 stated the crucial formula for that doctrine in its confession that the Son is “of the same essence as the Father,” even though it said very…[Read more]

Quote To WorshippingJesus.Trinitarians and Arians argued to sides of a question that was set up by Greek philosophy as they believed in created and non-created.So the inevitable question that arose and was argued by Athanasius and Arius was “is Jesus created or non-created”. God or creature.I believe neither. I believe he was begotten as it is…[Read more]

Quote True, God cannot be understood by natural means. So would it not be wise in that case to preach the following: t8Its obvious you dont understand the trinitarian view or else you wouldnt make this statement.Did a trinitarian make your image there?

Quote Hi W,look at the first part of Ps 2″1Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 3Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. 4He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh:…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,I do not wear trinity glasses.If it is obvious to you and true then it will be written.What is written is that the Word of God was with God. The monogenes Son was sent into the world.He became united with his FatherAnd this unity remains. NHI do not wear glasses with an Arian view or any diirivation of them.

Quote Yes the Trinity is part of the falling away from the truth.It is the foundation for most denominations which are really divisions and we should leave that foundation and build on the true foundation. Hi t8Again. Trinitarians believe that the Arian view or dirivations of it was a departure of the truth found in scriptures.So should we believe…[Read more]

Quote find that too.They simply ignore scriptures that do not fit their theology.So they only cater for that which their itching ears want to hear.A true student of scripture takes ALL scripture seriously. ————–Hi t8Thats funny. Thats exactly what all the trinitarians say of those who hold an Arian view.

Quote As it is written, “For just as from one torch many fires are lighted, but the light of the first torch is not lessened by the kindling of many torches, so the Word, coming forth from the Word-Power of the Father, has not divested of the Word-Power Him who begat Him”.Hi SscottWhere is this written?

Quote Hi W,Indeed.When Jesus comes again in eternal unity with God to rule on earth men will indeed hide from him.Ps 2″8Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 9Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. 10Be…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,You say”Meditate on these words. “ye believe in God, Believe ALSO in me”TWO as One.Not one in being because Jesus is the SON OF GOD”Why, Because my Father and I are ONE. ONE God!”No, not one and the same,but Father and Son in eternal unity from the Jordan. Believe as you will!

Quote Hi w,You say”He who is God came in the flesh”But Scripture says2jn” 7For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. ” Was the Word God NH?Was the Word made flesh?I Tim 3:16And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest…[Read more]

Quote He who is God came in the flesh.” and this one you're speaking of died for us.“Art not thou from of old, O LORD, my holy God? Thou diest not!” (Hab. 1:12, AT; NW; Mo; Ro)“You do not die.” Heb., lo’ ta·muth′. This was the original reading, but the Sopherim (scripture copyists) changed it to read lo’ na·muth′, “we shall not die”; T, “your…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,Your words betray that you do not yet know the Spirit because the Spirit does not speak on His own initiative but reminds us of the Word of Christ and you preach what was never found in his mouth. You must be reborn from above to see the kingdom but you still seem to see instead the kingdom of Babylon with it's trinity gods. And so is…[Read more]

Quote Hi w,Dan 7″ 9I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. 10A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten…[Read more]

Quote Hi w,You say”One God – Father, Son and Holy Ghost”then who is the SON OF GOD who was sent into the world?1jn 4″ 12No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 13Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. 14And we have seen and do…[Read more]

Quote Hi w,You ask”How could anyone but God answer Stephens prayer “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit”?”A typical greek trinitarian question.Logic is not helpful compared with scriptural truth.Your logic is. Stephen called to Jesus.So Jesus must be God.Very thin logic.Stephen is a branch of the vine that is Jesus.Jn 14″1Let not your heart be tro…[Read more]

Quote Hi w,You say”Notice you don’t see the title Father here either. What did he see? He saw the Glory of GOD, AND JESUS on the right Hand of GOD.”Jesus told us who God is. he did not say God was a trinity but said God is the FATHER. Jn 8.54″ 54Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom y…[Read more]