Quote think you can hold any of those views and do great things for God. You are missing the point.Knowing Truth!!!You still don't address how come your belief disagrees with the disciple of John the apostle.Honesty is all I ask. I think I asked a very simple straight forward question that all christians who truly seek truth should take pause and…[Read more]

Quote We are seperated by 2000 years, multiple language barriers, seperate cultures and 2 milleniums filled with deception. Mercy you are right.But the trinitarian view is sweeping the world and people are coming to Jesus and being saved and filled with the Holy Spirit.Acts 5: 38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone:…[Read more]

Quote Why do unanimously the disciples of John the apostle, Polycarp and Ignatius, and the other ante-nicean fathers disagree with the trinitarians? Why do the trinitarians refuse to accept that the early fathers know what they are talking about? We are seperated by 2000 years, multiple language barriers, seperate cultures and 2 milleniums filled…[Read more]

Quote Why do unanimously the disciples of John the apostle, Polycarp and Ignatius, and the other ante-nicean fathers disagree with the trinitarians? Why do the trinitarians refuse to accept that the early fathers know what they are talking about?  We are seperated by 2000 years, multiple language barriers, seperate cultures and 2 milleniums…[Read more]

Quote WorshippingJesus, are you a follower of Paul, Apollos, or Jesus?Wondering about your background.t8I was sincere in my question for 94, I am curious about where he is getting his teaching.But it sounds like you are trying to pick a fight. Who do you think I follow?I noticed you didnt mention the Father in those choices. Just picken!Since you…[Read more]

Quote To Cult Buster.Teaching falsely is not just wrong but it incurs judgement.Teachers face a stricter judgement, that is why we should all watch our doctrine closely.James 3:1Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.You should learn to tame your tongue and teach…[Read more]

Quote To Cult Buster.Teaching falsely is not just wrong but it incurs judgement.Teachers face a stricter judgement, that is why we should all watch our doctrine closely.James 3:1Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.You should learn to tame your tongue and teach…[Read more]

Quote 94, I know the Scriptures you quote very well and of course agree with them.  But none of those Scriptures say that the Bible is the Word of God.Scripture in fact says that Jesus is the Word (logos) of God.  For further info on this read my page (saves me typing it all out again lol)http://www.all4god.net/word_of_god.htmThis is really i…[Read more]

Quote Hi WJ:Sorry, My understanding is that God created all things with Jesus in mind.  He is God's heir and we are joint heirs with him.Genesis 1:26-27 states: “And God said, let 'us' make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air and over the cattle, and over all the…[Read more]

Quote No CB:Jesus is not the creator.  Hebrews 1:1-2 states: God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in the time past unto the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, BY WHOM ALSO HE MADE THE WORLDS;”.God is the creator.  Jesus is His Only Begotten Son.  And so, how ca…[Read more]

Quote TWO WAYSSee there is an esacpe goat that you may chose by running of from the crossOr you may use the pure clean Goat that has been sanctified So that at the same time He might redeem the promise made to the fathers, and by preparing the new people for Himself might show,while He was on earth, that having brought about the resurrection He…[Read more]

Quote WorshippingJesus I am excited to be accused blessed!For what I am doing is lifting Jesus higher that he may draw all things unto himFor what I deliver is an opportunity to take part in the very first resurrection of lifeChrist the first fruits of them that sleptWho said he was the King of the Jews, yet without exaulting himself a king came…[Read more]

Quote WorshippingJesus I am excited to be accused blessed!For what I am doing is lifting Jesus higher that he may draw all things unto himFor what I deliver is an opportunity to take part in the very first resurrection of lifeChrist the first fruits of them that sleptWho said he was the King of the Jews, yet without exaulting himself a king came…[Read more]

Quote If I believe that the Son is God (though God of the New creation) and the Holy Spirit is God and you don't believe they are equal and the Father Is God of ALL then why argue at all lets reason and not quarrel about a doctrine that was made by the Harlot of Rev ch. 17. that you don't even follow. kenrch BTW. This whole thing about Revelation…[Read more]

Quote There is one other thing I had one Trinity believer (who wasn't catholic) said that if I didn't believe in the Trinty then I wasn't saved.  Ooooh what a judge according to a law in my view isn't even in the bible!I believe that God is a Spirit and should be worshiped as such and I believe that Jesus is His only begotten Son that died so…[Read more]

Quote Then my friend AND brother you don't believe in the Catholic Trinity.  So is there another doctrine perhaps of one of her daughters that I don't know about?  A different version perhaps of the same doctrine?Just trying to make sense of what exactly you and Oxy do believe.  Because if you and Oxy don't believe that “they” are equal then th…[Read more]

Quote The Scripture you quote is correct.  Also there is Mat 1:23  “Behold, the virgin shall conceive in her womb, and will bear a son. And they will call His name Emmanuel,” which being interpreted is, God with us.Also Eph 3:19  and to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge, that you might be filled with all the fullness of God.And it is…[Read more]

Quote NOW hear thisGod the father.. David the Son.. Jesus The SonGod the Father…David the Father…And One Son Christcharity Am I hearing you right that you are exalting the earthly born imperfect King David over the Heavenly sent Perfect God and man Jesus?

Quote The Father gave Jesus all authority.  If Jesus were equal with the Father (and that's what the Trinity doctrine states) then why would the Father have to GIVE anything to Jesus?  Why is Jesus going to give His new kingdon to the Father?kenrch I dont think most Trinitarians believe that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are equal in rank.But e…[Read more]

Quote We have common ground on which to work.Jesus is GodThe Holy Spirit is GodAnd the Father IS GOD of everythingkenrchTell me, is this three seperate Gods or three in one?