Hi WJ and CB:Please give me your interpretation of the following scriptures:”God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who being the brightness of his glory, and…[Read more]

You know David.I wont tolerate being insulted and condescended to so I am gonna be gracious and not Speak on this with you again.I know how to count to three!!!So why dont you stay in your Arianistic religion and I will stay in my Tinitarian faith.You are Loved by God as well as I, So there is no more dialogue here since I feel lots of hate and…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,That grouping formed itself as a stance against true knowledge. NH Its the Arian sects that deviate and deny and twist and ignore scripture!

Quote Hi W,It is not THEM versus US.Or we are in the same situation as those who follow Paul or Cephas.We ask you to just base what you teach on scripture.That is why we work here. You say this, then why did you just group trinitarians together?

Quote Hi W,Why do you dare to go beyond revelation in your speculations about God? Fear Him. NH The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom!Wisdom clearly shows he Father, Son and Holy Spirit are ONE!

Quote Hi CB,You say”The phrase “O God” is a worshipful phrase indicating the reverence each Person of the Godhead have one for another. Each recognises the other as their God”So there are three gods?Each of them has two gods?You are seriously deceived.It is interesting that trinitarians seem to have a bond of loyalty to each other and do not…[Read more]

Quote Hi,Certainly to insult or grieve or to lie to the Spirit is to do so to God Himself for the Spirit is the manifestation of God on earth. God in heaven pours of His own Spirit into Christ and through him into the brothers of Christ making all one in Him. NHNice way to dance around the truth.But tell me why the Apostles didnt just use the word…[Read more]

Quote And I have repeatedly gotten silence.So I don't feel compelled to answer your “what is your point” question.  But I will.My point, WJ is that you point to the Matthew 28:19 scripture as some sort of proof that these three are one.Well, IF THAT CONSTITUTES PROOF, WHICH I DON'T SEE HOW IT DOES, then what of the 8000 or so texts that mention…[Read more]

Quote HGi W,Joel 2 tell us God pours out His Spirit.It does not say He pours out Himself.Gen 1 speaks of God and of His Spirit as does Ps 139.So the Spirit is an aspect or manifestation of Him. NHWhy do you limit God?Is any thing too hard for the LORD? At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall…[Read more]

Quote I was quoting scripture2 Corinthians 4:4 “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”I too believe He is however more then an image in the mirror, even up to His having a will that was different from the…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,I agree he was conceived and born of Mary and was a normal man like to us in every way but sin. So this normal man was not also a god was he? None of us are gods.God was IN him, not AS him. NH If he was the Word/God and he ceased to be the Word/God then How could he claim he came from God. And How could he say “before Abraham was I…[Read more]

Quote WJ, do people still fall for this?If Jesus and Jehovah are one (and where's the holy spirit in this) and part of a trinity, then you have to also conclude that Jesus followers are part of the same trinity, for they too are “one,” as any Bible will bear out.JOHN 17:21-22“in order that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union w…[Read more]

The Holy SpiritA fourth avenue of effective evangelism with Jehovah's Witnesses is the subject of the deity of the Holy Spirit. As I mentioned earlier, the Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the Holy Spirit is not a person because they see the Holy Spirit as a force–much like electricity or fire. Here is what Jehovah's Witnesses say about the Holy…[Read more]

Quote If the holy spirit is God's finger, his hand, is the holy spirit God?WJ, are your fingers WJ?Is your hand You?Or is it “of” you, a part of you, something you possess? DavidShow me where God who is a Spirit, posseses a Spirit!

Quote Let me answer that question for Nick:NOLET'S LOOK AT THE BIBLEIS THE HOLY SPIRIT A PERSON OF THE TRINITY, TO BE WORSHIPED AS GOD ALMIGHTY?The answer to this is unequivocally “No.”  The fact that the Bible does not explicitly mention, explain or teach a trinity is in itself strong proof that the trinity teaching is false. And this is also…[Read more]

The Holy SpiritA fourth avenue of effective evangelism with Jehovah's Witnesses is the subject of the deity of the Holy Spirit. As I mentioned earlier, the Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the Holy Spirit is not a person because they see the Holy Spirit as a force–much like electricity or fire. Here is what Jehovah's Witnesses say about the Holy…[Read more]

Quote Yes Jesus is the beginning and the end.  He is the beginning of the creation of God and He is the end of that creation all being in Christ.Rev 3:14  And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God. kenrchNot so fast. Are you saying Jesus was c…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,So when he was conceived of Mary what did Mary contribute? Was she just a surrogate mother for God as catholicism teaches? NHHeb 10:5Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:Phil 27 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a…[Read more]

Quote I have a question.If listing three together a few times proves the trinity, what does listing them separately the other 8000 times mean? DavidYou sure you have your numbers right?How about the thousands of times the Father and Son are mentioned seperately?What is your point? My point is there is three and they are One! This is scriptural!

Quote Hi W,Was he just a shell body or a normal man?? NHIs he a normal man now?