Quote would prefer to look at the Bible as a whole!  To look at all the uses of the holy spirit, and all the ways it is spoken, not just the ones that you have highlighted!When we do this, there is only one conclusion that can logically be drawnDavid Then why did you cut off the bottom half of my post?Is it because you dont want to look at those…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,We are people of the bible.Thus we can look at scripture and draw conclusions and have opinions.But we cannot state those opinions as FACT unless we can find it written and witnessed.Because you do not grasp the extraordinary abilities of God, having diminished Him to His Son and confused them, you cannot grasp the amazing abilities of…[Read more]

Quote Yeah, I agree – pretty hard to reconcile the data outside of a trinitarian framework….. Is 1:18Amen!

Quote Excellent description Nick. I wish they would serisously search for themselves to see if this view is true. This is the very same view the early church fathers held. NH dosnt even quote a single scripture!

Quote Again you read it wrong.I am not saying that you are saying that Jesus is the Father, I am saying that there is one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ.You say that there is one God the Father, Son, Spirit.But it is written that there is one God the Father and one Lord the Lord Jesus Christ.That is what I/we are saying.Comprehendo?Quote…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,You say”Its seems that everytime a new teaching comes along everybody is ready to throw the old out because the new must be a revelation from God.”You have accepted the NEW TEACHING of trinityand thrown out the OLD TESTAMENT which teaches GOD IS ONE. No NH!You are the one throwing out scriptures!Look at these and apply them to your…[Read more]

Quote God is one.There is one God the FatherGod has a son.The son is the Christ of God.Jesus is the Christ.Christ is the Word who became fleshJesus Christ is the Word of God.Jesus Christ is the TruthJesus Christ is the LifeJesus Christ is wisdom from God.Jesus Christ is the power of God.But he isn't God himself.Rather he is the image of God, the…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,Scripture says thatthe Monogenes Sonwas sent into the world.1Jn 4 NHExactly, as he was with the Father! He said…. Heb 10:7Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. And that is what he did. God prepared a body for him and he the Word/God took on human form and fulfilled all…[Read more]

Quote Hi,This false catholic doctrine, teaching that God came in the flesh, remains very popular among those who are in her daughters, those who think they have come out of her, but support her evil works. NHThe Word was not God Huh? Just throw this scripture out!Jn 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.…[Read more]

Quote Hi,A son is not still part of his own father. NHIf the Word which was with God and was God was a Son at that time I agree.But the Word was not born a son until he took on human form!The Word did not cease to be the Word or how could he have come in the flesh?No rocket science here!

Quote WJSorry brother I just don't see it that way.  You said:He is the beginning of all of creation because by him all things were made. “He is the beginning of all creation”  Sure Jesus was the first created I believe that would make Him the beginning of all creation.The definition of Start is BEGIN.  To commence. To come into being.”because by…[Read more]

Quote It amazes me that when christians come to the defense of the NT they laud praise on the integrity of the very early christians. This is usually used as one of the strongest cases for the faith. These men and women were devoured by lions in the Roman arenas.Yet, when the issue of how they interpreted scripture and what they believe is raised…[Read more]

Quote And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,( Eph. 1-2)Using your logic means that all spirits are God. Here in Ephesians a spirit is mentioned, since God is…[Read more]

Quote Sultan began this post by asking some questions:Many people claim that the Holy Spirit is a person because attributes are given to it that can only be used to denote personality. I would like to challenge that notion and prove from scripture that this kind of thinking is not infallible, and that perhaps too much is being read into the text…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,Jesus was killed.Jesus died.The natural spirit of Jesus did not die but returned to God as all do.But he had been baptised in the eternal Spirit of God which never leaves nor forsakes us.His soul did not die nor was his soul asleep in Hades but was alive in the Spirit of God and he visited the souls in prison 1Peter 3].His body died but…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,The Spirit PROCEEDS from God.God POURS out His own Spirit.They are the ONE BEINGChrist HAS PROCEEDED from and been sent by God.He is a separate being who had life in himself.He is united AS ONE with God in the ONE Spirit of God that we can share too.Then we will be ONE in heart and mind and Spirit. NHAs my friend Isa 1:18 Goes….He He He

Quote Hi W,Matt 27″ 50And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit. 51And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split.”Mk 15″  37And Jesus uttered a loud cry, and breathed His last. “Lk 23″46And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, “Father, INTO…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,The Holy Spirit is of God.The finger of God has no name of It's own but shares the name of God as It is the same being. NHIf the Spirit is the same being and shares the same name then the Spirit is a Person!

Quote Hi W,See phil 2The vessel was emptied before he came.He was infilled at the Jordan with the Spirit of eternal life.He died on calvary so his own spirit returned to God and God's Spirit abided in him.He was like to us, body soul and spirit and was raised to life -old body, soul vessel and Holy SpiritHe ascended and was fitted with a heavenly…[Read more]

Quote dear WorshippingJesus,May God open up your heart. Henoch He has my friend. I dont doubt the scriptures!If we doubt the scriptures, then we have no solid foundation for the truth.Dont get me wrong I use and compare all the translations with prayer and guidance of our teacher the Holy Spirit.I use the King James because I am used to it and…[Read more]