Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote When we are told that “Jehovah is a rock,” we understand it to mean that Jehovah is a stronghold. If these are all figures of speech for the holy spirit, they are somewhat odd.We are told the Spirit is a comfortor, and a teacher and on and on….

Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote Nick, i don't doubt that the finger of God is “one with God” any more than I doubt that my thumb is one with me.But my thumb is not a person. Although it can be spoken of as doing all sorts of things, spoken of in personal terms, and often used in parallel with myself, because it is something I possess or “of” me, it is not actually “me.”…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote Just out of curiousity, where are the scriptures that show intimacy of relationship between the Father and holy spirit or between the holy spirit and Jesus?Or where are the scriptures that speak of the love that the holy spirit has for the Father? Or vice versa?Or where are the scriptures that speak of the love and intamicy that the holy…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote NT authors appear to have no hesitancy at all in applying OT verses that reference YHWH to Yahshua. Hebrews 1:10, I think, is an exemplar.Hebrews 1:10And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine handsThe writer of Hebrews was quoting Psalms 102:25, a verse that was written in…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote Hi Is 1.18,God was in him and spoke through him.Jn 8″ 45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. “His accusers misunderstood him too.Scripture says…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote Hi W,God is a person but His finger is a part of His person not another person. That is daft to suggest the Spirit is another person from God Himself, the Father.You ascribe to Athanasius?This is what he said”25. And in this Trinity none is before or after another: none is greater or less than another.26. But the whole three Persons are…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote Hi Is 1.18,Show us ONE scripture that confirms that Jesus RAISED HIMSELF.Jn 2 and it's quotations do not state that he DID this. NHSo should we not believe the Son and his words as you always say?

Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote Hi Is 1.18,Jesus is never described as the creator. He created for God according to the command of God. All things were created through him but he was not the Creator God who is his Father. As a Son he was totally unselfish and obeyed God. Phil 2 tells us we are to imitate him in his relationship with God. If he was that God they could not…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote btw David this shows the Spirit of God is God]NHIf the Spirit of God is God and God is a person it dosnt take a rocket scientist to figure that the Spirit of God is a person!

Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Early writings in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote Either way, if you look at the writings of the Bible, you can see that the apostasy was “already at work,” or that the mystery of this lawlessness, was already at work, even before the apostles had died off. But back then, it was a mystery, because it hadn't manifested itself fully.DavidIs this why the NWT disagrees with all the major t…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Early writings in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote Just because a writing is found to be written in the first, second or any century for that matter means nothing.kenrchWhat writings are you speaking of?

Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote Hi W,Is it not this formation of creeds that has led to apostasy?Why not keep it simple such as Hebrews 6 1-2 and the words that are written? NHIll say it again…IF I WAS FOLLOWING A CREED…

Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote Luke 1:35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.Hebrews 1:5For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote Hi kenrch,When the spirit of God pricks a man he will usually turn and search for someone to blame for the discomfort. He will usually kick against the goad and say he has been personally attacked or you have spoken cruelly and this is natural to divert from the pain. I see nothing harmful but only a wise warning in what you have written. NHW…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote It goes without saying that a Father is the source of the son. Some argue that the son is in fact not OF God but is ACTUALLY God.t8Looks like you need to study the ontology of God and humanity!Father has Son.Father and Son is human!Father God has Son!Father and Son is God!A litlle child can understand this!

Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote WJ,”No offence. But first of all I resent the implication that I follow a mans teaching on this”.I'm sorry if you took my statement to be personal. “Most” Christians follow their clergy. Surely this is a true statement just as all denominations have lies covered with truth.What you believe is up to the Holy Spirit and you.But let me say t…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote Neither does the Athanasian creed you follow.The point was it summed up his interpretation nicely. If I was following any creed, I would rather follow his than Arius and his man made lies!

Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote Hi W,You say”God is a Spirit. Is he not a person?”Make your mind up.You tell us there are three persons in God.Are there three persons in a person? NH Why dont you make some sence?I am saying in reply to David that God is a Spirit and he is a person.

Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 8 months ago
Quote So you responded to my post before I posted it. Could you please tell me where, because I really don't remember you ever even acknowledging that those scriptures exist, much less trying to explain them. You did make some reference to metaphors, but I think you are mistaken in what that word means.david David Im simply saying in response to…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 8 months ago
Yes David I read your post and my response is a previous post!DavidWho is the prince of the power of the air!He is a person isnt he!There are metaphors of the Spirit for sure. But, this is not evidence that the Holy Spirit is not a person!Jn 4:24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. God is a Spirit. Is…[Read more]
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