Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 22 2007,19:36)Hi W, You quote, “Not to mention the context of the verse shows Jesus had Godlike attributes…Jn 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 22 2007,19:32)Hi W, You say. “Paul and the Apostles almost always couple the Father and Jesus together in their salutations and valedictions”Funny that. Couple means two. Not one Not three Two. But you do not READ what you quote or say.NHYes there is three persons, “One God”!

Quote (Adam Pastor @ Mar. 22 2007,18:21)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 22 2007,17:18)Paul and the Apostles almost always couple the Father and Jesus together in their salutations and valedictions.They were Monotheist, why would they do this and then in many cases call him God?“many cases call him God”?? WJ, what do count as many?I know there are…[Read more]

Quote If you compare all the scriptures that say God is the “only one” of something, you will find that Jesus is not included in those scriptures explicitly.  You must cut and paste to your own slant to make it point to Jesus as well.  Even Jesus set himself a part from God.  Why do you think he did this?  Does the Bible say why he did this?  “.…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 22 2007,17:04)Good morning!  Thank you, t8, for pointing out so well that WJ “sees what he wants to see.”  I prayed about this last night and came to the conclusion that pride is an enemy towards the things of God.  Pride will not allow you to admit that you are wrong, and it will not let you ask for forgiveness – for su…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 22 2007,10:25)To WorshippingJesus.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2007,02:22)t8All I quote is scripture t8 and show how they relate letting them interpret themselves and you say this is pride.I am doing what you condemn me of not doing.This is not pride t8, this is confidence in what is written.You have no confidence in John…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 22 2007,06:17)You see what you want to see.Pride in your stance hardens your heart to see the truth in scripture.But some people actually let scripture teach them and they form their beliefs from there. Others start with a belief system and use scripture to justify it.Most cults and denominations work this way and it is why they…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 21 2007,23:47)Hi W, God ministers in the world through His Spirit everywhere in the world, and through Christ'sSpirit in the sons of God.Is not the Holy Spirit of God amazing manifesting God among us? How silly it would be to think it was another person!NHYou think God uses an “IT” to manifest himself?Sounds like JWs to…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 20 2007,23:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 19 2007,21:45)TimTimothyVIThen why did “ALL” the major translators, over 500 Scholars leave it in?Quote Hi worshippingJesus,They just haven't gotten to it yet.Why did it take them almost 2,000 years to finallyremove the fraudulant 1Jn:5-7?King James still won't do it. Once a…[Read more]

Quote (Phoenix @ Mar. 20 2007,01:00)Um… Like Nick says… Quote No suggestion there are several persons in God.Seems like something men made up to meHugsPIts good to see NH and t8 has all their followers here!That warms my heart.

Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 20 2007,23:40)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 19 2007,21:45)What is your credentials that you should take Matt 28:19 out!Hi WorshippingJesus,My sincerest apologies to you.I did not realize that we needed to post our credentialsto state our belief on this forum.What I stated about Matt 28:19 was only what I have read that…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 22 2007,00:47)The RSV puts 1 John 5:20 this way:  And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding,to know him who is true;and we are in him who is true,in his Son Jesus Christ.This is the true God and eternal life.*********We are “in” him who is true (God) BECAUSE we are “in” Christ.  See, earlier in t…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 22 2007,00:47)The RSV puts 1 John 5:20 this way:  And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding,to know him who is true;and we are in him who is true,in his Son Jesus Christ.This is the true God and eternal life.*********We are “in” him who is true (God) BECAUSE we are “in” Christ.  See, earlier in t…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 22 2007,02:14)Ha…..it's good to laugh at yourself every now and then,isn't it?.  It just dawned on me why it irritates me when WJ does his “tit-for-tat” routine.  It bothers me because I do it too, and that has always bugged me about myself  Oh, pride!  Forgive me, WJ?  It's who we are.  I guess I'll just quit point…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 22 2007,01:26)Grasped your point?I dont think you grasped mine!********Nanny-nanny-boo-boo to you, too!  Ha!  I'm kidding, of course.  You just always seem to need to defend yourself.  It's kind of like my kids say, “I know you are, but what am I?”  sort of thing.    Isn't the fact that I am going to ponder what you have s…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 22 2007,00:57)But no he is not the Father he is the 2nd person of the Godhead.*****************Typical response from someone who follows traditions and documents of men!WJ – this language you are speaking is not even Biblical – has that dawned on you?  What is this 2nd person?  What is this godhead?  Where can I find this tr…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 22 2007,00:50)Not3in1Make up your mind.Everything is everything. All power is All power and Jesus has it. You ever think of how much power that is?**********WJ – obviously you cannot grasp my point.  Do me the honor of pondering it for a while and see if anything comes to you?  And I will ponder “how much power” Jesus has.  …[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 22 2007,00:27)Not3in1Do you really believe God is gonna give us (humanity) “ALL” power in heaven and earth?*********************************************************************************************WJ, I really am encouraged by you!  I dare say you are the most enthusiastic Trinitarian I have had the priviledge to chat…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 22 2007,00:27)Not3in1Do you really believe God is gonna give us (humanity) “ALL” power in heaven and earth?*********************************************************************************************WJ, I really am encouraged by you!  I dare say you are the most enthusiastic Trinitarian I have had the priviledge to chat…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 22 2007,00:17)This same Apostle later writes…1 Jn 5:20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.Again, WJ, you need to identify the players.  “Him who is…[Read more]