Quote (david @ April 05 2007,20:53)Quote Besides YHWH there is no god.Isaiah 44:6, 8, 45:5, 21, 46:9″Jesus is too called a God.”  No, he's called God.  And there's only one, YHWH.Right Tim, beside Jehovah there is no god.  And the angels are called gods.  What does this mean?  I think we have to have a better sense of what the word “god” mean…[Read more]

Hello!Everyone who has ears to hear.Here is what Paul the Hebrew of the Hebrews a strict monotheistic Jew says about the “ONE TRUE GOD”.1 Cor 8:4 Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that there is *no such thing as an idol (False gods) in the world*, and that there is no God but one.5 For even if there are…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 05 2007,06:52)WJ writes:I personally think its gonna take physical persecution that God will use to bring his people into unity.********************************Interestingly enough, persecution is exactly what brought about the signing of the Nicea creed.  These are not my ideas, but what is written in history.  It c…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 05 2007,06:45)WJ writes:Are we supposed to put ourselves under anyone but the Father and the Son and the Spirit?*******************************1 Cor. 11:3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.Who is under the Spirit?  Who is the Spirit…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 04 2007,08:11)Adam says:There is absolutely no connection between Exo 3.14 & John 8.58. The simplest proof of this is to look at the Greek of Exo 3.14 in the LXX. that is, the Septuagint, which is the Hebrew scriptures translated into Greek.He says:Exo 3:14  And God said unto Moses, ego eimi ho ohn: and he said, Thus shalt…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ April 04 2007,20:36)Jn1:1.   why is the word “word” assumed to be Jesus?  I believe that “word” means communication, eg. written word or spoken word.Blessings.chosenoneLook at the context!Jn 1:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were m…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2007,05:40)Hi Tim 2,So what do these verses mean?Jn 14 1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. Jn 20 31But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.NHYou only have to look three verses up…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 05 2007,04:04)Tim, WJ, and Nick – good points, brothers, regarding the church, and denominations!Tim2Thanks!I appreciate your zeal for Yeshua! He seems to get little honour these days by men attempting to honour the Father without him.Jesus said they are thieves and robbers by trying to get to the Father by some other way.He…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 04 2007,08:26)Quote The same word “proskuneo” is applied to the Father also, does that mean they were not worshipping the Father?No, obviously not.  But I never said this, did I?  What I DID SAY is that that word is also applied to humans and it's used at other places where “worship” is obviously not what the Bible is r…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ April 04 2007,08:27)WJ,David identifies three places in the Septuagint and NT where proskunein is used other than with Jesus and YHWH:  Genesis 23:7, 1 Kings 1:22, and Matthew 18:26.  So I will concede that it can mean to kneel before a king or to show respect.  But it obviously also can mean worship, and as Revelation 22:9 says, wo…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ April 04 2007,11:04)Quote (Not3in1 @ April 04 2007,03:49) For the most part, I consider myself a biblical Unitarian (although I do not like to be associated with denominations any more).  I meet with a body of Christ for fellowship in various living rooms.  Hi Not3in1,Tha is exactly how I feel. My pastor is always saying you ar…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 04 2007,07:44)Quote He's also the God we're called to worship (Hebrews 1:6) (proskunein, which in Rev 22:9 we're told only to do to God).  I don't know how many other gods you can say that about.Tim 2, there is a thread about worship.But, simply put, the word proskyneo is applied to humans as well as Jesus and God and simply…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ April 04 2007,00:50)WorshippingJesus I am looking to a full reward; and I am reminded in the scripture that I shall be in danger of losing this if I refuse to listen and place myself under he that hath not both the Father and the Son. 2Jo 1:8  Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we…[Read more]

Not so!Gen 1:1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Gen 1:26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Jn 1:1: In the…[Read more]

t8 PostedQuote Great you admit as such.Now combine that with the fact that this one true God sent his son.Can you see that? Can you at least throw away your pride and admit that?Of course we both know that there is one true God, but you also have to reconcile the fact that men and angels are referred to in scripture as elohim and theos and that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2007,00:35)Hi not3, Monogenes is poorly translated “only begotten” as it has nothing to do with birth.He was begotten of God alone in the beginning.All the other sons were created through him.NH”Only Begotten”, Greek, 'Monogenes' which means;1)single of its kind, onlya)used of only sons or daughters (viewed in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2007,05:14)Hi not3, You misunderstand.Ps 2, the most known and versatile OT verse. 7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.NHYou are missleading.Ps 2:Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2007,00:35)Hi not3, Monogenes is poorly translated “only begotten” as it has nothing to do with birth.He was begotten of God alone in the beginning.All the other sons were created through him.NHScripture that says he was begotten before his natural birth please?

Quote (chosenone @ April 02 2007,18:57)WorshipingJesus.       Thanks for the repy, I totally agree with your statement “We must be led by the Spirit and the Spirit will guide us into all truth.”   Thanks for the debating this subject, I'll look forward to seeing yours and others comments in “Heaven Net”.     Blessings.ChosenoneNo problem. It has b…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2007,10:46)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2007,02:56)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2007,09:53)Hi Is 1.18, Only one son was begotten but the others are sons too, though created and without mums. Scripture calls all of them sons and so I do too.NHYea, well scriptures call Jesus God and you dont call him God.So again the…[Read more]