Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 20 2007,20:30)Quote (t8 @ May 20 2007,20:19)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 21 2007,15:03)For me it's more straight forward than that. I talk to Him.Hi Is 1:18.Don't forget the others too.When Trinitarians pray to YHWH, they pray to a HIM and yet can talk to three persons.The ironic thing here is that they should pray to THEM if they…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ May 23 2007,07:30)Hi t8,My point was that praying to Jesus alone doesn't exclude the Father, and I don't see how you can say that it does.Quote I think I have made it clear that the attributes/postion/priviledge you speak of that makes Christ God to you, also refer to us (believers/followers of Christ). Your evidence is:Quote John…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 23 2007,19:06)Hi W, Is that prayer -according to the teaching of Jesus?NHThen you give me the definition of prayer!Tell me what is the difference in “talking to”, the Father and “praying to” the Father?Please elaborate!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 23 2007,18:36)Hi w, You say”How can you develop an intimate relationship with the one who is supposed to be your husband, and you his bride”Then you say”How do you have this kind of fellowship without prayer?” Do brides pray to their husbands?NHYou are lying to yourself if you believe that talking to Jesus who is unseen is…[Read more]

Is 1:18How True. Just shows the arrogance and the fallacy of the Arian followers and to what extreme they will go to reject the Deity of our Lord and God.I wonder how they even got saved apart from praying to Jesus.Acts 2:21And it shall come to pass, that *whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved*.Acts 4:10Be it known unto you…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 19 2007,17:54)Well, I'm afraid I cannot give you scripture because there isn't a scripture that says we have to pray to Jesus?Not3Then show me scripture that says we cant pray to Jesus???

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 19 2007,17:43)We can not have an intimate relationship apart from prayer to him.**************The problem with this WJ is that it is not Biblical.Not3What is not biblical?And please give me scripture!Thanks!

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 19 2007,17:01)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 19 2007,16:16)Hi w, “…and the Word was God” You say in another thread” God is a class of being.” Is that what you think this means?The Word is divine?What do you think it means?NHWhy dont you give an answer to this.Rather than just throwing knives.How about a good ole fashioned Holy…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 19 2007,17:29)Hi W, So all who do not walk as you do are idolaters?But wait!! The God you offer us-trinity-is not even mentioned once in the bible.NHThey serve “another” Jesus!If you dont pray to him NH then no its not idolatry for you.If you pray only to the Father and say “In Jesus name”.Then no.Problem is you have to go…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 19 2007,17:03)Hi WJ, I was wondering when you were going to get here Hey, don't say “sad” – tell me why you think it's redefining.  The definitions I gave are reasonable, are they not?  Which part is sad?Not3 No they are not.Remember the day you got saved and called out “In Prayer” to Jesus.How sweet it was.The fellowship of h…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 19 2007,14:57)Hi not3, All they say here is always designed is to manipulate you, using the precious words of God, to accepting their false doctrine of trinityNHIt would be nice to see some of the precious words of God coming from you rather than just name calling and critisising.The constant flow of bitter water coming…[Read more]

Sad!At what extremes men and womem will go to to hold on to their doctrines.To have to redifine prayer and fellowship with God to fit their doctrine.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 19 2007,11:57)Hi w,Perfect sense?That arrogant human concoction?It is indefensible by scriptural standards.And in your heart you know it.NHThanks!

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 19 2007,10:52)WJ, no one can make sense of the Trinity.  It is nonsense.  When something offends your mind and the God-given reason and logic we are equiped with – it goes beyond not being able to understand it.  It goes into the mystic realm where Jesus is not.not3The trinity makes perfect sense to me.If you look closely at…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 19 2007,10:49)WJ,I think “praying” might be the hang-up here.  We are to pray to the Father.  However, we have fellowship on with another, and with God and his Son.  Fellowship is relationship.  Fellowship doesn't have to mean prayer.Not3I disagree!Prayer is talking to a being you can not see.If you are fellowshipping with Jes…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 19 2007,08:56)Hi W,Jn20'27Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 'Lk 24″ 36And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. 37But they were…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ May 19 2007,09:04)WJ why have you acused me and not have taken thought and care for your own soul?WJ YOU SAID..you should not go outside of scripture and make inferrence.I guess you feel Jesus is saying No Satan you worship Me in this scripture?Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 19 2007,08:28)WJ,This is interesting in that no matter what you try to use to describe your triune God, it is very difficult to graps (i.e.; egg having three parts, water being ice/steam, three leaf clover and so on).  I believe the sun and it's rays are another example that falls short.not3It is more difficult for me to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 18 2007,13:45)Quote (Unisage @ May 18 2007,13:30)CharityHowbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.1Co.15:44-46This indicates that Jesus was not a spirit being before he was born physically. The physical “””body””” comes, then the spiritual “””body”””.…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 18 2007,18:08)You cant seperate the rays from the sun t8. Without the sun there is no rays and without the rays there is no sun.*********************What about during an eclipse?  not3Do you think the Son stops shinning during an eclipse?