Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,16:42)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 24 2007,16:35)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,16:31)Hi W, How is calling on Jesus prayer?Your doctrine enlarges line by line.NHLOL!What is it then?Lets see…Hey guys when you call on the Lord Jesus that is not prayer!Prayer is when you call on the Father! Hi W, The description…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,16:41)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 24 2007,16:32)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,16:29)Hi w, You say”Three persons that you fellowship with right?”We fellowship WITH God and His Son1 John 1:3That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,16:31)Hi W, How is calling on Jesus prayer?Your doctrine enlarges line by line.NHActs 7:59And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. Acts 22:16And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. Acts 2:21And it shall…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,16:31)Hi W, How is calling on Jesus prayer?Your doctrine enlarges line by line.NHLOL!What is it then?Lets see…Hey guys when you call on the Lord Jesus that is not prayer!Prayer is when you call on the Father!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,16:29)Hi w, You say”Three persons that you fellowship with right?”We fellowship WITH God and His Son1 John 1:3That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.But we fellowship in the Spirit…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,16:22)Hi W, Was Paul praying?NHI believe he did!But, you see Paul was a Hebrew of the Hebrews and a strict monotheist, and Paul would know that to pray to any other being other than God would be Idolatry.Yet Paul did!It is because like John and Peter and Thomas and Luke and Ignatius and many others, they believed…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,16:17)Hi W, Paul did this too.Acts 22″ 16And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. ” He is our Saviour and our Lord. But his God is our God.NHSo does this mean you do pray to him?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,15:41)Hi W, So the word 'fellowship' has different meanings depending on the circumstances? Hmm.NHDance, Dance!Is this all you know how to do friend? Respond to questions with questions.I always answer yours, you never answer mine, or so it seems!Ill ask again, if you dont answer I assume you dont have…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 24 2007,12:03)To WJ.As for the other scriptures you quote, yes of course I agree with them.I have fellowship with God, Jesus, and God's spirit.The point here is that once again we have God and Jesus identified as 2 different identities.So the scriptures you quote actually reinforce the truth that for believers, there is one God the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,15:14)Hi W, We are speaking of fellowship here.NHYes, and fellowship with an unseen God is prayer!Fellowship is not silent is it NH? It involves communion, koinonia; which means…1) fellowship, association, community, communion, joint participation, intercourse a) *the share which one has in anything*, p…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,13:34)Hi W, So you fellowship in the Holy Spirit with believers without praying to the believers or the Holy Spirit?2 Corinthians 13:14The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.So why do think fellowship with Christ must mean prayer to him?NHIf…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,14:58)Hi W and CB, Athanasius would dispute your view.NHAre you following Athanasius now?Arius would also dispute our view!

Quote (Cult Buster @ May 24 2007,00:30)t8. I do not lend my words easily to be twisted by you or others.  Here is your answer further simplified to suit your understanding.Everthing was created by or through (en and dia) Christ Jehovah, and by His own unborrowed power.If you cannot accept or understand it then that's your problem.G1722ἐνenenA…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2007,11:05)Hi W, Do you fellowship with Christians?NHYes I do!But I dont “spiritually call” on them, do you?You can not have fellowship with the Father or the Son apart from “Spritually calling” on them, this is prayer!Now if you “spiritually call” on Jesus and he is not your God, then you might as well call on the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 24 2007,09:45)To WorshippingJesus.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 24 2007,23:29)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 20 2007,20:30)Quote (t8 @ May 20 2007,20:19)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 21 2007,15:03)For me it's more straight forward than that. I talk to Him.Hi Is 1:18.Don't forget the others too.When Trinitarians pray to YHWH, they pray to a HIM and…[Read more]

Quote (olive @ May 20 2007,19:25)WJ, I will admit openly, that your words are empty, you and nick constanly bicker between each other, as well as you do w/ others. Do you have an unteachable spirit? Are you now, 'spiritually superior' than others, no humbleness……………Your long speeches, does not Christ say watch out for ones that love to…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ May 21 2007,04:30)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 20 2007,07:18)Quote (942767 @ May 20 2007,03:22)John 1      1:1In the beginning was the Word (Logos, from Strong's Concordance: “embodies a conception or idea” and the Word(Logos) was with God(these two parts of the verse just indicate that God had and idea or a plan), and the Word was Go…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 22 2007,20:00)Quote (t8 @ May 22 2007,12:04)Say what?I will address it again.I said there are 2 in the English translated text of Zechariah 12:10. There is a ME and HIM. It appears that you are ignoring this fact.YHWH appears to be the ME in the text and Yeshua appears to be the HIM, who is also the one who is pierced, i.e.,…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ May 22 2007,21:55)See also the literal translation. (LITV)Act 7:59  And they stoned Stephen, invoking and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. Act 7:60  And placing the knees, he cried out with a loud voice, Lord, do not make stand this sin to them. And having said this, he fell asleep. Stephen was kneeling and praying d…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ May 21 2007,02:53)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 20 2007,20:11)Not3,There is a bigger picture to consider here. Yeshua wants a relationship with substance. Matthew 7:21-2321″Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22″Many will say to Me on…[Read more]