Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (kenrch @ June 06 2007,13:07)Quote The Spirit is not in the Spirit. The Holy Spirit is Spirit, Just as the Father is Spirit, Just as the Son is Spirit.Then that's two spirits.You say The Holy Spirit is Spirit JUST AS THE FATHER IS SPIRIT.The Holy Spirit is Spirit and the Father is Spirit. You are saying they are not the same Spirit but are…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2007,11:49)Hi W, You said”If you blaspheme the Holy Ghost which is God then you have just cut off the only one who can bring you to Jesus who is God in the flesh and our only Savior who alone has the power to forgive sins!' But this is theological gibberish.God as Spirit is greater than ChristNH“Blaspheme” Gre…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote The Father (Spirit John 4:24) Son (who is one with the Spirit) and then their is somehow another spirit according to the Harlot. WHO is this spirit? We have and scripture says that their is one Spirit and God is that Spirit.So again I ask what spirit is the SPIRIT (GOD) in. Three IN one. Does that or not include the Holy S…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2007,09:38)Hi W, Was the Truth lying?Should we prefer your words? It has never been your approval we have sought.NHI think the words of God through Is 1:18 are far more honest and sound than yours.No offence!But you have shown nothing but disbelief for the words of OT scriptures and scriptures as a whole.The bible is…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2007,11:04)Hi w, You say”If you blaspheme the Holy Ghost which is God then you have just cut off the only one who can bring you to Jesus who is God in the flesh and our only Savior who alone has the power to forgive sins!” We are not speaking of ACCESS here but blasphemy. Jesus said it was different in respect to the…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2007,09:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 06 2007,07:24)NHYou say…Quote Christ has proceeded as a lesser Son.Where is this written NH?
Hi W,Christ told us the Father was greater than him and I believe him. Listen to Peter,” You are the Christ, the SON of the living God.”Jesus approved of this answer so it would be a…[Read more]Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2007,09:32)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 06 2007,07:21)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2007,07:06)HiW, To blaspheme the Spirit is more serious than to blaspheme Christ-Jesus told us.That is because the Spirit ever proceeds from God. Christ has proceeded as a lesser Son. This indicates that any equal trinity theory cannot…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Dualism in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 06 2007,06:37)Can you tell me where I might find the word “hypostasis” in the Bible?Who are you to judge God's children, huh? Jesus is not “just” the offspring of God and Mary – by saying that YOU have insulted God and his Son. Tim, you may not realize how hot the water is that you are in now…..it's been heating up s…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
NHYou should take off your Henotheistic Glasses and read Is 1:18 post again!Whos knows you just might learn something!Is 1:18 response to t8 Posted: June 01 2007,22:28Let me preface this rebuttal by saying congratulations t8, this is without doubt your best effort to date, and finally we’ve moved away from the verses that (in your mind) disprove t…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
NHYou say…Quote Christ has proceeded as a lesser Son.Where is this written NH?

Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2007,07:06)HiW, To blaspheme the Spirit is more serious than to blaspheme Christ-Jesus told us.That is because the Spirit ever proceeds from God. Christ has proceeded as a lesser Son. This indicates that any equal trinity theory cannot be true.The Father loves the firstbegotten Son and sent him into the world.No NH!To…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Tim2 @ June 06 2007,06:19)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 06 2007,06:04)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 06 2007,05:59)You say the Holy Spirit is the Father then why do you keep calling him the Holy Spirit, why not just call him Father?That's a good idea! Can we try that and see if it works? Everywhere you see the holy Spirit – replace it with God o…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Tim2 @ June 06 2007,05:16)Pardon my jumping in here but it looks like WJ is being ganged up on. Are you debating whether the Holy Spirit is a separate existence/subsistence from the Father and the Son? If so, John 14-16 have always been the clearest to me on this pointJohn 14:16 -“I will ask the Father, and He will send you another H…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (olive @ June 06 2007,06:12)Unfortunatly for you K, even if you say there is no third person, “Comforter”, you still have to conclude if Gods Spirit as you say is God and there is only one Spirit then that makes Jesus God.RED FLAG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DANGER, DANGER…..If you believe this to be true WJ, and by what you preach,then you you…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (olive @ June 06 2007,01:45)Hey W, It seems there is a thread already prepared to speak of truth and spirit. You know Wj, I have ask for revelation to give, all weekend. Searched the scriptures. And the only thing I have is this: Who is truth? Who is spirit? Why are we told in John that Yahweh seeks those worshipping in truth and spiritIf…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (kenrch @ June 06 2007,02:41)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 05 2007,17:04)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 05 2007,15:55)The Holy Spirit fills Jesus with Joy. Then Jesus said ” I prasie you FATHER”. Notice He didn't say I praise you Holy Spirit but he did when He reconized the Holy Spirit as the Father. *…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
KenrchYou say…Quote Just what exactly do you believe? I know some how you and others have taken the Trinity doctrine and twisted it so it would at least LOOK true.What holds the three together WJ?Three in one. One what?Is God a Spirit?There is one God and one Spirit. God is that Spirit.Jesus is in that Spirit. The apostles were in that Spiri…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2007,18:11)Hi W, No . Scripture says Jesus PROCEEDED from God. The Spirit PROCEEDS from God, as you would expect given that scripture is speaking of God pouring out His own Spirit.NHNo what?

Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Dualism in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Tim2 @ June 05 2007,18:02)Quote All I am still saying is that the bible does not say God is a personHebrews 1:3 -“And He is the Radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His person …” The word for person here is hypostasis, which can also mean nature, but has been understood to mean person.TimTimTrue!

Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Dualism in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 05 2007,17:05)How could we stray so far of the path? When did “One” start to mean something else?Did the children in the OT understand God when he said he was One to mean something else, WJ?not3In scripture and in the creation, one is not always singular!You and your husband are one flesh!The atom is one, yet proton,…[Read more]
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