Quote (karmarie @ April 26 2011,17:58)You are a gang, the gang of the scholars, the self proclaimed elite who look down on anyone who is not up there with you. What would God think?KarmarieDon't you think calling someone an enemy is promoting a gang like mentality? It is one thing to say an enemy of the faith, but another to call a believer in…[Read more]

Hi IreneWhen are you going to answer the question?  WJ

Hi KathiI will answer your post soon. WJ

Hi MikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ April 21 2011,22:47)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 21 2011,17:00)If the scholars say there are “3” possible Grammatical ways of translating John 1:1c, then why do you fault them and accuse them of bias for choosing an option that contradicts the NWTs own bias?If the scholars say there are “3” possible Grammatical ways…[Read more]

Hi MikeDo you agree with these following scholars and if you do then how would it be possible to translate the verse in any other way?It would seem unlikely in the extreme that a translator would understand John to have designated the Word “a god” in John 1:1 and “the God” in John 1:18.  Instead, his use of the definite article in verse 18 would…[Read more]

Hi MikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ April 21 2011,22:47)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 21 2011,17:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 19 2011,21:33)So, I ask you again:Keith, based on their own translation, it is clear which of the two remaining possibilities the NET scholars PREFER, but they don't ever rule out “a god” as ONE OF THE THREE POSSIBILITIES THEY…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 26 2011,11:59)Quote (Istari @ April 25 2011,16:38)And did not Jesus break the rules of the Jews that strangled them and left them impotent to the harse and overbearing penalties of the bloodstained swords of their overseers – the Romans: the law and the taskmaster.The raging rows you have with WJ, KJ and SF – what are…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 26 2011,11:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 24 2011,06:48)Oh I see.  In YOUR mind, if one IS a god, then he must be YOUR personal god?  mikeWhy should I answer your question when you cant simply answer the bolded question that I directed towards you.Hey D Exactly!Glad to see you back. Where u been? WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 25 2011,23:02)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 25 2011,16:12)Besides Mike loves the attention, haven't you noticed?What Mike loves is for people to directly answer his direct questions.  There are a couple waiting for you right now, are there not, Keith?Down boy! Have some “patience” my friend! Quote (mikeboll64 @ April…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 25 2011,22:04)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 26 2011,09:12)Quote (Baker @ April 25 2011,09:29)I do agree that WJ, KJ> and SF all gang up on Mike, but there too He ignores their rudeness, which I find they are…..I don't think that they will ever get away from their believe of the trinity.IreneAnd I think you are rude for…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 25 2011,09:29)I do agree that WJ, KJ> and SF all gang up on Mike, but there too He ignores their rudeness, which I find they are…..I don't think that they will ever get away from their believe of the trinity.IreneAnd I think you are rude for saying this. I have always tried to be nice to you. We have given Mike no less or…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2011,20:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 25 2011,08:30)MikeNo. But Jesus is God and that is the point. Jesus is not saying he is the Father but he is saying “IF YE HAD KNOWN ME”, ye should have known my Father (God) also: and “from henceforth ye know him (God), and have seen him (God). “Did they literrally see the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 23 2011,15:34)The early church often spoke of the begotten God and you cannot accept that phrase.  I can.KathiWhere does that come from?Of course I agree with the term however I do not agree with your “Use” of the word begotten and I do not believe the majority of the Forefathers do.For your information the “Athanasian…[Read more]

JAThere might be some hope for us!

Quote (seekingtruth @ April 23 2011,14:21)Mike,Neither do I, I did not infer in any way that Jesus did not get His glorified body, actually quite the opposite, please re-read my posts or is this an argument technique to put me on the defensive?My opinion – WmHi WilliamI agree…To deny that Jesus was not raised in his own sinless body and then…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2011,13:57)As long as “AGAIN” means “WITH THE HONEST AND CORRECT ANSWER THIS TIME”.  I will remind you of your own words:If the scholars say there are “3” possible Grammatical ways of translating John 1:1c………….mikeI answered honestly. You agreed that I did, twice!You know what you are still making the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2011,13:57)As long as “AGAIN” means “WITH THE HONEST AND CORRECT ANSWER THIS TIME”.  I will remind you of your own words:If the scholars say there are “3” possible Grammatical ways of translating John 1:1c………….mikeMikeExactly, “IF THE SCHOLARS SAY? wj

Quote (seekingtruth @ April 23 2011,13:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 24 2011,01:17)Quote (seekingtruth @ April 23 2011,10:12)I say that Jesus is flesh and bone because He said it.Hi Wm,Do you suppose the flesh and bone body with holes in it is the “glorious new body” Paul said Jesus has been given in Phil 3:21?mikeYes I do, I believe these holes…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2011,13:39)Keith,I believe I have much more evidence to support “a god” than you do to support a capitalized “God”, which only leads people to think the Word was the exact same capitalized “God” mentioned in 1:1b – even when the scholars agree that is NOT the case.So please address my questions so we can move on.…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 23 2011,13:07)That is still a mystery, so yes, there still is mystery but I understand a whole lot more than I used to and I am comfortable to call myself a trinitarian according to the early church views,…KathiWow I am glad to hear you are “comfortable to be called a Trinitarian”, so you are one step closer to being in…[Read more]