Quote (kejonn @ July 06 2007,04:26)ACC,People must not recognize absurdity. It would be absurd to assert that belief in the Trinity was essential for our salvation, because Jesus did not impart such a requirement to those who heard him. He knows exactly who he is, and he knows his relationship to God. And he knew what he came for. And never once…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 06 2007,10:19)94You say…Quote Amen kejohn to all of your responses to WJ.  I find when evangelizing that many Jews and Muslims will not confess Jesus as Lord because in doing so they believe that they will be violating the 1st of the Ten Commandments.  This is the biggest problem with the “trinity doctrine”.  Many will no…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2007,07:57)Hi W, LK4.1NHLuke 4:1 dosnt show “When Jesus was filled”.John the baptist was filled from birth!Do you think Jesus was greater than John?Look at this…Isa 40:3The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.Matt 3:3For this is…[Read more]

Mr. SteveFirst I will say, I wont respond to a PM about a post that I have made, expecially from a new comer who hasnt posted on this sight yet!I will be happy to address your points, but you need to put them out here for all to judge!Blessings!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2007,07:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 06 2007,07:41)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 06 2007,06:13)Quote (Laurel @ July 06 2007,06:07)Not 3,Simply put, the power of the Spirit makes them One.God is the Father – WHO he is.God is spirit – WHAT he is.Jesus is the Son of God – WHO he is.Jesus is a divine man – WHAT he is.not3I…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 06 2007,06:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 06 2007,05:01)Quote (kejonn @ July 05 2007,23:07)Hi again WJ,Sorry to post again but I admit I stopped reading you response after the first few lines. And when do I get ability to edit my posts so I don't have post twice if I need to add? Eh…Anyway, I've never said the Trinity is…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 06 2007,06:13)Quote (Laurel @ July 06 2007,06:07)Not 3,Simply put, the power of the Spirit makes them One.God is the Father – WHO he is.God is spirit – WHAT he is.Jesus is the Son of God – WHO he is.Jesus is a divine man – WHAT he is.not3I see you have been learning from t8.Well you do know that you just called Jesus God dont…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ July 05 2007,23:07)Hi again WJ,Sorry to post again but I admit I stopped reading you response after the first few lines. And when do I get ability to edit my posts so I don't have post twice if I need to add? Eh…Anyway, I've never said the Trinity is false, that it is a whore, or any such thing. I admit that I am leaning towards…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ July 03 2007,13:42)This one will be much harder. Since there were so many who listened and followed Jesus, and since so many believe that the concept of Trinity is so vital to our faith, please show us that those who followed him and believed on his words were not lost because they had no concept of the Trinity. IOW, please provide…[Read more]

KTell you what, You show us where Jesus said he “was not God” and we will show you were he said he was.Oh and by the way the rule is you have to do it in light of John 1:1 and John 20:28, and Heb 1:8.Also it has to be “Unambiguous” and not grey. Also maybe you could grace us with your scriptural “Proof” the Trinitarian faith is not true by using…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 04 2007,18:17)Hi W, You say”God is revealing to the church more of his truth as time goes on, but the truth that he reveals is found in the scriptures in seed form and will build on what we have” Then your church is not following the Spirit of God.John 14:26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 04 2007,15:59)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 04 2007,05:46)The oldest Gospel that we have is the Gospel of John.John wrote his Gospel between 90-100 AD, but the book of Rev was written around 68 or 69 BC. I believe that Johns vision of Jesus having the name “Word of God” was where he borrowed “Word was God” from that…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 04 2007,16:08)Hi WJ:You say:Quote Is it entirely possible that the Apostles didnt have a full understanding of God at that time?And so, are you saying that you have greater revelation than the Apostles who Jesus ordained including the Apostle Paul?Quote 3:15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ July 04 2007,13:40)WJ, don't have time to answer to all of your post, but I will ask you this: Do you believe that belief in the Trinity is necessary for salvation? Is so, look back over your post and realize what you have said. You basically said that belief in the Trinity was NOT necessary for the 1st century believers, so why is…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ July 04 2007,06:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 04 2007,06:12)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 03 2007,17:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 03 2007,17:37)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2007,22:17)Hi Is 1.18, Do your hands serve you?Can you feed yourself without your hands helping you?The Spirit is as the finger of God.NHDoes your finger…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 03 2007,17:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 03 2007,17:37)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2007,22:17)Hi Is 1.18, Do your hands serve you?Can you feed yourself without your hands helping you?The Spirit is as the finger of God.NHDoes your finger talk to you?      Hi W and Is 1.18,Would you compare the amazing Spirit of Go…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ July 03 2007,23:27)So basically we know the answer from WJ and IS . I mean, after all, if the Trinity is what all people say it is, it should be evident without taking 50 scriptures and tying them together and saying “see, I told you so”. Just out of curiosity, I wonder if Philip made certain that the Ethiopian went away with the…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ July 04 2007,00:30)Quote (pastormg @ July 03 2007,03:09)“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God (THEOS) and the Word was God (THEOS).”Forgive me, please from my last statement. This Bible verse does indicate that Jesus (the Word) is God. Where does that leave us then? There is no trinity, proven.Ep 4:4…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 03 2007,18:14)kejonn,I challenge you to please explicitly describe your theology. But there are rules you must follow:1. You must only use words which do not contain the vowels 'i' or 'o'.2. You must only refer to NT books that are less that 22,500 words long.3. You must never use predicates in a sentence unless they have the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 03 2007,17:57)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 03 2007,17:19)not3You cant teach someone who has totally shut their mind to certain scriptures!Scriptures should be taken literrally first and foremost! not3in1 ..>thats just what trinatarians do they shut there minds and ignore all scripture evidence produces and hang on to…[Read more]