Quote (gollamudi @ June 18 2008,12:52)Hi WJ,Spirit will not speak of its own but of the person with which it is connected. We received Spirit of Jesus therefore it is natural that his spirit speaks of his(Jesus) words. Whatever way he guides. IMOHi GM14 *He shall glorify me*: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. John 16:13Does…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ June 18 2008,12:39)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 18 2008,05:59)Gollamudi……..Yes Jesus and the Father are one in Spirit and its the same Spirit that Jesus yielded  to by putting (HIS WILL) to death Now if He put his (WILL) to death whats left the Spirit of God that was in Him, Therefore He no longer has a separate will so He…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 18 2008,12:02)WJ………I quoted 10 or 12 scriptures where Jesus plainly said the words weren't His and i noticed you did not commit on them would you like me to requote them to you? Or can you just go back and read them and give us your commit on them. I am interested to see how you denie them, or divert what they…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 18 2008,11:47)Hi WJ, NO it is a serious question. When did he pray to himself or must you turn away from this one?NHNo I am not turning away from anything.You are trying to force the word “Theos” to only mean the Father therfore you are saying that when Jesus prayed to God he must be praying to himself.The word “theos” is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 18 2008,11:36)Hi WJ, WE follow Jesus. Now where is it recorded that he prayed to himself?NHSame ole Arian twist.Problem is you are not speaking to a “Modalist”.

NHWhere does Yeshua say to pray to the Father only?How about this…Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: 1 Cor 1:2You do call upon the name of the Lord Jesus dont you NH?

Hi all.God is Spirit. So if God is Spirit and God is Holy are we not worshipping Spirit, for God is Spirit?

Quote (Irene @ June 18 2008,09:47)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 18 2008,09:37)Quote (Irene @ June 18 2008,09:24)WJ. If the Spirit s a person then the Spirit is Jesus's Father. Is that true?Peace and Love IreneIreneNo, it is not true, because the Spirit didnt take on the likeness of sinful flesh, and being found in fashion as a man.The Word that…[Read more]

Quote (Irene @ June 18 2008,09:24)WJ. If the Spirit s a person then the Spirit is Jesus's Father. Is that true?Peace and Love IreneIreneNo, it is not true, because the Spirit didnt take on the likeness of sinful flesh, and being found in fashion as a man.The Word that was with God and was God did that!

Quote (theodorej @ June 18 2008,08:28)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 18 2008,06:52)Hi,Matthew 7:15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  Sheeps clothing to enable mingling with the vulnerable and to steal their life.Greetings Nick….Would you consider those who bare their faith in a…[Read more]

Quote (JPR @ June 18 2008,08:44)Hi CB, I have read many scriptures supporting the trinitarian view but must say, no one has ever presented so many scriptures in one place, well done!.  Have you noted not one is saying JHWH is Yeshua?  If you want, divide the scriptures into “A” and “B” scriptures where a “A” scripture is a scripture which c…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 18 2008,07:06)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 18 2008,03:23)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 17 2008,19:35)That's a great post WJ, I can tell you put a lot of work into it. Kudos.Isa 1:18Thanks! I guess I am passionate about this because scriptures so clearly teach that the Spirit is not an amorphous “it” or “thing”. But in fact “the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 18 2008,05:38)Wj……if a person or spirit cant speak of it's own, you have to ask why cant it, the only answer imo is it does not have its own Will or it could speak of it own. because a person can speak of his own self, but the comforter can't why then.If you understand that the comforter is part of GOD then it makes…[Read more]

Hi all.And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. Rev 5:6Wow. The “eyes” of the Lamb are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. We…[Read more]

Hi GBQuote (Gene Balthrop @ June 18 2008,03:13) We also know God is Holy and therefore Holy Spirit is the Father Himself there is no separation between God the Father and His Holy Spirit, it says Howbeit when the comforter comes it will not speak of it's self, why? because it does not have a will of it's own, it only does the Fathers WILL because…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 17 2008,19:35)That's a great post WJ, I can tell you put a lot of work into it. Kudos.Isa 1:18Thanks! I guess I am passionate about this because scriptures so clearly teach that the Spirit is not an amorphous “it” or “thing”. But in fact “the Lord is that Spirit”.It seems that many want to just close their eyes to this truth…[Read more]

Hi LUQuote (Lightenup @ June 17 2008,16:29)Hello WJ and Nick I think this might interest you too:In these following three passages we see they refer to the same teaching written by three different men, Matthew, Mark, and Luke inspired by the Holy Spirit also called the Spirit of the Father.  See for yourself even in the Greek.Matt 10:16-2116…[Read more]

NHI am done going in circles with you on this subject. You have obviously rejected certain scriptures that clearly show the Holy Spirit is not the personal Spirit of the Father.Gotta go. Later my friend.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 17 2008,10:57)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2008,10:51)Hi WJ, Jesus was an advocate for his brothers while on earth. After his resurrection he asked the Father to send the Spirit to be an advocate for them.NHYea, and?So Jesus is not our advocate now? So Jesus doesnt live in us now?NHOr are you saying the Father is the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2008,10:51)Hi WJ, Jesus was an advocate for his brothers while on earth. After his resurrection he asked the Father to send the Spirit to be an advocate for them.NHYea, and?So Jesus is not our advocate now? So Jesus doesnt live in us now?