Quote (t8 @ Aug. 18 2008,19:38)Hey how about some posts, I am waiting for the 12000 one so I can close this topic and start the sequel.Maybe there should be a prize for the 12000 post?Or maybe WJ could call all those who believe that the Father is the one true God a bunch of Polytheists as he has done in the past. That would surely ignite a few…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 19 2008,02:07)T8….you resisted the sin because greater was he that was in you then he that is in the world, You will (always) chose the greatest influence at the time of choice this has been proved time and time again. Why did Paul express the when he said when he would do good he found a the influence of evil there…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 18 2008,19:26)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 18 2008,15:13)T8…….. You are right you are not GOD an nothing does (ORIGINATE) withing you. The collections of thoughts were installed in you through you life and you simple chose from them and as a result your choice was caused and had nothing to do with a free choice because the word…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2008,02:34)WJ, your Trinity doctrine is a false teaching. There is one who is God, not three. Like I have said many times, if you really believe it, why don't you pray like “Dear God how are all of you? etc”. And why is God a him in scripture and your God by definition is THEY.THE theos and theos means different things in Greek…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2008,02:06)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2008,01:39)Since you believe that there are many god's it would seem you could gives us at least one example.I believe what scripture says, there is one God the Father who is the Most High God. This God sent Jesus his son to earth.You are allowed to disagree WJ.And your comment about…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2008,01:55)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2008,01:36)t8Yes of course.You have a big “theos” and a little “theos” which is true Henotheism and Polytheism because according to Paul there is “no other theos” and all other “theos” whether in heaven or earth are “so-called” theos, and obviously Paul is not speaking of…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2008,01:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2008,00:28)Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Titus 2:13WJ. Whether you read that verse as great theos, and saviour Jesus Christ.orgreat theos and saviour, Jesus Christ.Jesus is neither YHWH or the Most High God…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2008,01:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2008,00:28)Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Titus 2:13WJ. Whether you read that verse as great theos, and saviour Jesus Christ.orgreat theos and saviour, Jesus Christ.Jesus is neither YHWH or the Most High God…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2008,01:13)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2008,00:28)Why do you not call Yeshua your Lord and God t8?Yeshua is my lord and he is my theos and he is my head and he is my saviour. If angels can be elohim and judges who were given authority by God are called theos, then all the more Jesus who is in nature theos.But Yeshua is…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2008,16:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2008,11:07)Hi DavidHa Ha!Have you ever heard me deny Yeshua as the Son of the Father?To say that because Yeshua is the Son of God, he cannot also be God in nature, is like saying that because you are a son of your father means you are not human.By saying that he is God, you are…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2008,16:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2008,11:07)Hi DavidHa Ha!Have you ever heard me deny Yeshua as the Son of the Father?To say that because Yeshua is the Son of God, he cannot also be God in nature, is like saying that because you are a son of your father means you are not human.By saying that he is God, you are…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi @ Aug. 15 2008,16:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2008,12:46)Hi JodiThanks for your response.Since you say that I am of the Harlot and blind, and imply also that the 100s of Greek and Hebrew scholars and commentators are also blind, and pretty much everyone else on this sight are all of the harlot, and that you are the only one…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2008,12:56)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2008,12:45)t8You didnt answer the question?We are not talking about the OT. We are talking about the NT.Give me one example where the word “theos” is ascribed to any other being with the definite article besides the arch enemy of God!WJ2 Corinthians 4:4The god of this age has blinded…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2008,12:46)Taken from Wikipedia.After giving as a translation of John 1:1c “and divine (of the category divinity) was the Word,” Haenchen goes on to state: “In this instance, the verb 'was' () simply expresses predication. And the predicate noun must accordingly be more carefully observed: is not the same thing as ('divine'…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2008,12:46)Taken from Wikipedia.After giving as a translation of John 1:1c “and divine (of the category divinity) was the Word,” Haenchen goes on to state: “In this instance, the verb 'was' () simply expresses predication. And the predicate noun must accordingly be more carefully observed: is not the same thing as ('divine'…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2008,12:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2008,12:40)t8But you just quoted this…Quote “In the beginning the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was divine.”An American Translation, Edgar Goodspeed and J. M. Powis Smith, The University of Chicago Press, p. 173″The Logos (word) existed in the very beginning,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2008,12:42)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2008,12:35)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2008,12:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2008,12:09)And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 20:28It's obvious. Jesus is not an attribute but a person.But this still doesn't make Jesus the Almighty God.Satan is a god and he is…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2008,12:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2008,12:27)t8Yes but your conclusion is the Word was divine and not “theos”.You disagree with the translators and basically all the translations.Do you have any Greek or Hebrew skills?I see it the way it is written. THE Word was theos.I don't disagree with translators but…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2008,12:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2008,12:09)And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 20:28It's obvious. Jesus is not an attribute but a person.But this still doesn't make Jesus the Almighty God.Satan is a god and he is a person. He is THE God of this world.You need to look at more than one…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2008,12:27)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2008,12:09)They all translate it “The Word was God” or “God was the Word”They could have translated it “the Word was divine” or “the Word was a god” if what you say is true.“In the beginning the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was divine.”An American Translation,…[Read more]