Quote (david @ Feb. 16 2009,05:17)Quote If I said: “WJ, you are a true trinitarian.”What do I mean?  Do I mean that the other trinitarians (and there are others) are “false trinitarians”?Quote Apples and oranges David. We Know there are more than “one” Trinitarian. But the Bible teaches there is only “One True God”.Hello circle.  Have you met W…[Read more]

Hi DavidQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 15 2009,09:07)What are you trying to say David, there are different types of gods? I suppose you are right, there are “false ones” and a “True One”.Do you really want to do this again David? Okay here goes…Quote (david @ Feb. 15 2009,10:51)WJ–Here is where you are wrong:  You take the word “true” to mean th…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2009,14:01)We had the conversation here as well:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;hl=godHey, are you the sort of guy who always calls facial tissue “kleenex”?Hi DavidWhat are you trying to say David, there are different types of gods? I suppose you are right, there are “false ones” and a “True One”.WJ

Hi t8Quote (t8 @ Feb. 14 2009,09:38)It is taught that the source of all is God and that God did things THROUGH his Logos and his son.You mean like when God works through us? You are right we can be called “channels” or “vessels” God/Jesus works through.But when God works through you, do you play an active role?For instance, when God speaks through…[Read more]

Hi t8Quote (t8 @ Feb. 14 2009,09:38)The word “through” means a channel. Like a camel going 'through' the eye of a needle which is the same word.Channel? You mean like a “funnel” or a “puppet” or an “empty vessel”? So in other words Jesus had no “active” role in the creation but like Adam was just the “DNA” you call it?What did Jesus do then when…[Read more]

Hi t8Quote (t8 @ Feb. 14 2009,01:04)But Eve was made through Adam, yet Eve was created by God alone.This is a poor analogy to make by comparing it with the creation of all things.First of all the Bible doesn’t state that God made Eve “through” Adam, but in fact Eve was created “from” Adam.God took a part of Adam “(a rib) and created Eve.WJ

Hi APQuote (Adam Pastor @ Mar. 25 2007,15:52)The writer of Hebrews is using the context of the LXX's rendering of Psalms 102:23ff!In the LXX rendering of Psa. 102:23ff, the quote of v. 25 (as quoted in Heb 1.10) is taken from GOD's answer to the suppliant (the Lord Messiah); and the context is about the new heavens & earth to come! i.e. the Coming…[Read more]

Hi APSo are you saying that the Lord, in the “BEGINNING”  when he laid the foundation of the earth; is the (world to come) in Heb 2:5?Then this future world that Jesus creates will be destroyed?Or to put it another way….Are you meaning the future world when Jesus sets up his kingdom is the “BEGINNING” and at that time Jesus lays the foundation…[Read more]

Quote (Adam Pastor @ Feb. 11 2009,14:22)Quote (Adam Pastor @ Mar. 25 2007,15:52)Greetings ALLConcerning Psalms 102 & Heb 1.10The short answer is that the writer of Hebrews' quote of Psalms 102:25 is taken from the LXX (Septuagint).The LXX text reads different from the Hebrew text (MT).Hence, the LXX rendering has a different sense entirely from…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 16 2009,08:51)Some points to ponder for Tim and Tif.2 Corinthians 5:1-91 Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. 2 Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, 3 because when we are clothed, we will not…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 07 2009,17:35)BTW, if someone asked me to agree that the trinity was the true doctrine of God or die, I would be in heaven.Hi KathiBTW I find it interesting that you would die for what you “don't believe” rather than for what you do.   How about this…If someone was to ask you to deny that Jesus was “a god” or die, would…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 07 2009,17:35)I can say that I am 100% convinced that it is entirely possible for the Son of God to have a beginning on day one of creation and that the term “firstborn of all creation”  is quite likely a reference to that light.Hi KathiEntirely possible?  Quite Likely?  I thought you said God spoke to you and told you th…[Read more]

Hi KathiI would also like to add that the many differences in beliefs really have their roots in not sharing the same foundation.If you build a building and the foundation is not right then as you build the structure it will begin to lean and have problems. It will not be plumb or level meaning that it would also be out of square making it much…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 06 2009,13:26)Hi Keith,Nice to hear form you.  I have to agree with much of what you wrote in the last post here but I would like to challenge this comment that you made:Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 06 2009,12:18)Those who say they are open to change are pretty much saying they are not sure of what they believe or they…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 06 2009,10:52)Quote (martian @ Feb. 05 2009,15:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 06 2009,05:18)Quote (martian @ Feb. 01 2009,17:29)Quote (meerkat @ Feb. 02 2009,07:29)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 01 2009,18:17)Marty, I do not think you know the “I” and “me” that I am asking you to identify.  Let me try to make it clearer.  Who is the “…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 03 2009,14:10)Quote You mean like the NWT and John 1:1? Quote (If your translation is the only one that translates it that way, you should consider why the others translate it differently.)Hi WJ.  Obviously, the NWT is NOT THE ONLY TRANSLATION to translate it that way.  MANY DO, in fact, some of the oldest.Also, do you think I…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 03 2009,12:56)Quote that is why it is important to have rules for interpretationI agree.Just a day ago, I found a very good set of rules here:http://www.thercg.org/articles/troebs.htmlRule #4: God’s Word Never Contradicts ItselfRule #5: Find Out What the Bible Really SaysRule #6: Examine the ContextRule #7: “Here a little, the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 24 2009,04:25)David……..Notice, (HIS OWN) Works not some other evil beings works but His (OWN WORKS) were EVIL. Evil is not a being Evil is what a being is, Just like Good is not a Being Good is what a being is.  Evil or Good is intellect of Spirit and either can and is in everyone. Its not abing of some kind in…[Read more]

Hi all!Back in May of last year I made this prediction….Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 07 2008,17:43) I think I will make a prediction right now, America will have an election and in 2009 we will have a new president, and there will be no nuclear war, and the great tribulation will not begin, and the world economy will not collapse and almost e…[Read more]

Hi all!Well, the USA has a new president which proves another of Mr Weinlands prophesies false.The following link in one of the last interviews with Mr Weinland shows how many other false prophesies has already failed him.In his interview with “Talk Sport Radio” in London, Mr Weinland claims that if a nuclear weapon did not go off in the USA…[Read more]