Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 12 2009,22:02)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 13 2009,10:09)t8Nice try!But it has been shown to you before that the quotes that you mention are from the “spurious letters” which were written around the fifth century!Nice try though!WJWJ,I'm beginning to wonder if some of our posts are even being read by these guys.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 12 2009,18:24)Hi WJ, The Spirit takes us back to the teaching of Jesus. He never mentioned any trinity so the spirit you follow is not the Holy spirit?NHSo you do not believe what is written, Jesus words!You should not be so judgmental of others who do not accept your version of the scriptures!WJ

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 12 2009,18:23)Hi WJ, Pagan trinities abound. None was ever found in the mouth of any anointed servant of God.So why do you teach it-do you not fear God?NHDo you believe Jesus words?Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Matt 28:19If you do…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 12 2009,18:11)Hi WJ, But you offer us trinity speculations from 200 ad rather than scriptural teaching?NH It has been shown to you by CA that the Trinity was believed long before what you say!WJ

Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 12 2009,13:37)t8's source says:Quote But can we really read the word 'Theos' in John 1:1c as qualitative rather using it to refer to an identity? The most likely candidate is that the last instance of 'theos' (in John 1:1c) is qualitative. This is true both grammatically and theologically. (Also, if The Logos was 'the God'…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 09 2009,23:47)Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 04 2009,09:20)Irene likes to play pretend.  Here's what an earlier church father than Tertulian stated about Christ.  (BTW, this guy knew the apostles, was their successor, and was martyred for the faith)Ignatius of Antioch”o the Church at Ephesus in Asia . . . chosen through true s…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 11 2009,19:35)Quote (katjo @ Sep. 11 2009,14:21)nick, and thinker;  the term “right hand of God” you need to read the post on page 24 and the post on 25,26 on the trinity.kat,I read the post and agree with most of it. One point is that in the Old testament God was the Husband and Israel was the wife. In the new testament…[Read more]

Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 11 2009,14:19)Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 12 2009,06:12)And God help the tribe in Africa who has never seen a bible or heard of your Triune God (but worship the God that they know – who is in heaven – and perhaps goes by a different name).Love,MandyYeah, this is where Fundamentalist Protestantism has done a lot of…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 11 2009,13:56)Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 12 2009,04:48)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 12 2009,00:46)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 11 2009,12:51)Hi CA, In what way does it show love for God to deny the authority of His teachings by elevating your traditions above them?The same question may be asked of you because you perpetuate…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 11 2009,13:05)This verse can be looked at with another perspective Keith,Quote Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: “BEFORE ME THERE WAS NO GOD FORMED, NEITHER SHALL THERE BE AFTER ME”.  Isa 43:10I'm just brainstorming here beca…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 11 2009,01:47)Quote David do you believe that to YHWH, and Moses and Joshua or Aaron, and the Hebrews that Moses was “a god”?Or do you believe that Moses was to them “like God”?Think real hard David before you answer!  WJ, thankyou for the question.  (I too have been away.)No, of course I do not believe that Moses was a god t…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 11 2009,13:05)This verse can be looked at with another perspective Keith,Quote Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: “BEFORE ME THERE WAS NO GOD FORMED, NEITHER SHALL THERE BE AFTER ME”.  Isa 43:10I'm just brainstorming here beca…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 11 2009,01:41)“No. Moses was not a god at all. To Pharaoh he was and thats it.”–WJWJ, I'm wondering if you could elaborate on what you mean by “god.”Moses was “not a god at all.”  But, to Pharaoh he was a god…in some way.  Also, if the Bible states that Moses was a god to Pharaoh, as you say, how can you also say he was “…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 11 2009,01:39)Quote (david @ Sep. 06 2009,17:05)“What does “no God” mean to you David? Does it mean there is “no god except” the false god that Pharaoh perceived of Moses?” –WJ (p 38)WJ, are you saying Jehovah made a false god?  You also stated:“No, I am sugesting that Pharaoh acknowledged that Moses was some sort of “a god”…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 11 2009,03:34)david.I think WJ chooses to understands only that which he is biased toward.Scripture tells us to leave Babylon, but I imagine that not all will leave.t8Are you looking in a mirror again!WJ

DavidQuote (david @ Sep. 11 2009,01:38)Now that you know what false means, which you've mentioned before, what does “true” mean in this sentence or others like it:“Warren Buffet is the only true buy and hold investor…”Question:Does it HAVE TO MEAN the other investors are “false investors” as your logic suggests?Does it?Does it have to mean…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 10 2009,18:24)Hi TT, Now will WJ agree God is actually a community? Do you pray”Our trinity god.. Or “Our gods..Hi NHIs it wrong to say that when God speaks to you it was the Father? Is it wrong to say that it was Jesus that speaks to you? Is it wrong to say that it was the Holy Spirit that speaks to you?When you say God…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 10 2009,14:52)Hi WJ, Still confused? The Lord is the Spirit.NHYes he is, and the Spirit who is God lives in his Temple!WJ

Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 10 2009,17:00)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 11 2009,08:43)Hi TT, Not he does not support your odd ideas like community gods and angels gods but WJ will not correct you as long as you preach catholic trinity.Who saved you?a. The Father aloneb. the Father and the Sonc. The Father, the Son and the Holy SpiritIf you choose any…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 10 2009,16:28)Jodi Lee said:Quote When Jesus said 'before Abraham was I am', he was not referring to himself as the 'I AM' of YHWH in the OT. The 'I AM', that Jesus says he is, is the Christ, the SLAIN LAMB, the Mediator to YHWH, the SERVANT of YHWH.  The Christ is the human being YHWH promised He would be a Father to.…[Read more]