Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 07 2009,13:57)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 08 2009,05:30)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 07 2009,13:15)Hi WJ,No, lets be honest. You have searched for verses that might offer some possible support for false catholic dogmas. When will you truly serve God and His son and not falsehood?NHOh so you are calling me a liar now? You…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Oct. 06 2009,12:00)Thinker………Scripture says (NO) man has seen GOD at any time. Now you want us to believe that man has seen GOD , what bible do you preach from ?. That even proves that Jesus was not a GOD, because Men have seen Jesus, unless you believe like the Gnostic's believed Jesus was under disguise, he only appeared…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 07 2009,13:15)Hi WJ,No, lets be honest. You have searched for verses that might offer some possible support for false catholic dogmas. When will you truly serve God and His son and not falsehood?NHOh so you are calling me a liar now? You are a sad excuse for a moderator!WJ

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 07 2009,12:10)Hi WJ, So you make Jesus into a part of his God?You realize that the Father is the one true God but allow catholic dogma to distort what is simple.NHI simply believe the scriptures as they are without all the oppologetics and explaining away the text!I am looking for “The appearing” of my Great God and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 07 2009,03:00)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 07 2009,17:42)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2009,22:37)Hi WJ, So majority rules? The road is narrow and few choose it.Scripture establishes doctrine not majority votesNHThat statement was made concerning those who are saved and those who arent.Are you prepared to say that the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 07 2009,00:07)Well, I have a new appreciation for those that have difficulty breathing normally now that I have been nursing my 75 year old dad back to better health 24/7.  He has the hardest time at night so he got a long back massage, some Bible reading and tonight I had him listen to this as he drifted off to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2009,22:37)Hi WJ, So majority rules? The road is narrow and few choose it.Scripture establishes doctrine not majority votesNHThat statement was made concerning those who are saved and those who arent.Are you prepared to say that the majority of Christians today are not saved because they believe in the Trinity and you…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 07 2009,00:16)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 06 2009,21:41)KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Oct. 06 2009,21:00)[Just so you know, tradition doesn't establish some theory as truth…sorry, even if many follow it.The Trinity is not a tradition, but an established doctrine by the majority of Christianity and the Christian Churches.So…[Read more]

KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Oct. 06 2009,21:00)[Just so you know, tradition doesn't establish some theory as truth…sorry, even if many follow it.The Trinity is not a tradition, but an established doctrine by the majority of Christianity and the Christian Churches.So my statement is not uncalled for.According to the Church that you go to you believe…[Read more]

JodiQuote (Jodi Lee @ Oct. 06 2009,17:29)I showed how dias from the lexicon said dias and dias, but I never explained that to be a repetition of the same meaning to the same word, I have always said through and for. What lexicon, for it is not in the Greek text! Please show us where your source is that says “dia” and “dia”.WJ

Hi AllJesus is first in the lives of believers. Paul the Apostle said that he counted everything but loss that he may win Christ!Hebrews states “but we see Jesus” who is the Author and finisher of our faith!Jesus said he was our Lord and Master.Paul said that he was a bondslave to Jesus Christ and that he was not his own but bought with a price,…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 06 2009,17:46)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 06 2009,15:45)KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Oct. 06 2009,03:19)The trinitarians have differing theories that they believe, well fine, but it should not be made to be something that divides believers in Christ who hold to the clear truths and also have developed other theories which can…[Read more]

KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Oct. 06 2009,17:46)[This site is great to provide different points of views to consider.  The name calling and derogatory remarks because someone does not agree with someone's theory is completely Pharisee like…also IMO.You bring up a good point. I try to stay away from the name calling, but it seems that so many here…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2009,15:40)Hi WJ, So you are able to add the final touches to scripture so that you can say the Son is his own Father?NHAgain, misrepresentation is bearing false witness. You know that Trinitarians do not believe that Jesus is his own Father.You know this but it doesn't seem to matter to you. Just spout off these false…[Read more]

KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Oct. 06 2009,03:19)The trinitarians have differing theories that they believe, well fine, but it should not be made to be something that divides believers in Christ who hold to the clear truths and also have developed other theories which can be shown in scripture.Well then does that mean that you will not post your theory…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2009,15:33)Hi WJ, Indeed it is necaessary to come out of the world and follow Jesus outside of the city walls. What your false new doctrines offer is death, not life, as you are in rebellionNHThere you go acting like God again! You will be accountable for your words. You know nothing about my relationship with God and…[Read more]

KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Oct. 06 2009,03:19)Also, that Thinker believes that the “eternal word” (which is an oxymoron btw since a word has an origin as does a son) is another term that is not found in the Bible) became the Son at some point and time…another idea not clearly taught in the Bible.How can you speak a word unless the word is in…[Read more]

KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Oct. 06 2009,03:19)The trinitarians have differing theories that they believe, well fine, but it should not be made to be something that divides believers in Christ who hold to the clear truths and also have developed other theories which can be shown in scripture.The majority of Christianity and the Christian churches…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Oct. 06 2009,03:12)Hi brother WJ,Thanks for your response on this new thread. You know for sure I am not at all a non-believing Jew. I am still a Christian like you. But I want all of you to define and establish the Jewish Messiah which was the chief tenet of the religion of the Bible and also the religion of our Lord Jesus.…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Oct. 06 2009,03:28)Hi brother Nick,Thanks for your response. The most primitive Christology of N.T according to John A.T Robinson says that Jesus came into this world not as Messiah but as prophet like Moses or like a servant of Yahweh. Yes I also believe that Jesus did not fulfill most of the Messianic requirements during his…[Read more]