Quote (Beloved @ Nov. 17 2009,14:43)Every knee has NOT bowed and every tongue has NOT confessed. That is one thing that surely hasn't happened yet.Hi Beloved!Welcome, and good point!WJ

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 16 2009,13:00)Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: “”See, THE LORD IS COMING WITH THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF HIS HOLY ONES (AV saints)” to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spo…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 16 2009,13:00)Seriously Jack, do you want to go down this road?Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 16 2009,17:39)Yeap!Bring it on!Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 16 2009,13:00)Jack how is it that you can pick and choose in OT scripture where the Father or Jesus is spoken of?Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 16 2009,17:39)Keith,Who is…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 16 2009,19:44)To All,Our brother Keith denies that ten thousands of angels attended Jehovah from Mount Sinai. WJ says that these were men. But the new testament says that it was angels,“…who received the law by the direction of angels” (Acts 7:53).And why do you lie against me? This is what I said…”But Jack teaches his v…[Read more]

Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 16 2009,17:21)was wondering what religions everyone here is. there are a lot of good answers and discussions here and lots of insight. would like to know and your stance on the major factors that seperate each who argue. the cross – birthdays – holidays – trinity – hell – gods purpose for earth with adam(paradise earth) -…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 13 2009,15:57)So the word “body” in the expression “it is sown a natural body and raised a spiritual body” stands by synecdoche for the man in both his parts.Then Jack according to you our New Man which is created in Christ Jesus is vile like our bodies for Paul says…Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, “he is a new…[Read more]

Hi All All these threads that Jack keeps creating are becoming redundant!I am beginning to think that this is a diversional tactic to confuse the readers!So instead of answering Jacks previous post, I have already addressed his comments on another thread with the following…Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 14 2009,16:32)TO ALL:The purpose of this topic…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 16 2009,12:31)Hebrews 10:37 says, “In a very little while He that will come will come, and will not tarry.”As you dismiss Jesus and the apostles so I dismiss A.T. Robertson. My faith stands in the power of God and not in the wisdom of men. Robertson's remarks do not compute. Paul said that the dead in Christ shall rise FIRS…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 16 2009,12:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 16 2009,17:24)JackI can no longer take futurists seriously because of all their double talk. So I am not at all impressed by their “scholarship” in the area of eschatology.Since you can no longer take me seriously then I will no longer take you seriously!You totally in my…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 14 2009,16:32)TO ALL:The purpose of this topic is to stimulate my trinitarian brothers here to think more orthodox in their trinitarianism.Seriously Jack, do you want to go down this road? What makes you think that you are a teacher over your Trinitarian brothers that you even say this? What is the purpose of all these…[Read more]

Hi AllHere is an example of someone not being true in oppologetics…Jack says…Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 13 2009,14:29)Even Barnes who you invoked says that there may be a considerable interval:But then Jack quotes Barnes…Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 13 2009,14:29)There may be a considerable interval between the resurrection of the pious and the…[Read more]

JackQuote (thethinker @ Nov. 13 2009,14:29)I can no longer take futurists seriously because of all their double talk. So I am not at all impressed by their “scholarship” in the area of eschatology.Since you can no longer take me seriously then I will no longer take you seriously!You totally in my opinion deny the clear meaning of scriptures!You…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 13 2009,12:10)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 13 2009,17:49)Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 12 2009,23:33)This is Paul defending the Gospel as was given to him pertaining preaching to the heathens because he was no approved by Peter and the other disciples to preach what he was preaching and if Paul is right here your refusing…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 12 2009,14:24)Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 09 2009,14:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 09 2009,17:36)Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 08 2009,22:10)Paul said that those who were alive and remained AFTERWARDS would be caught up. John was caught up therefore when he died. He acquired his immortal body from heaven (2 Corinthians…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 13 2009,11:05)Hebrews says that the perfect tabernacle is “not made with hands.” Then he says, “that is, not of this creation.” So Paul was saying that our immortal bodies are not of this creation.”FLESH AND BLOOD CANNOT INHERIT THE LINGDOM OF GOD”Of course our immortal bodies are not of the New Creation, because like the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 13 2009,11:05)First, The word “body” is “soma” and sometimes may indicate the whole man. I have already shown you this from Vine's.If it did indicate the whole man Jack then it would include our natural bodies wouldn't it?For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:…[Read more]

JackQuote (thethinker @ Nov. 13 2009,11:05)You ain't got it straight man! There are no contradictions in scripture! Paul said that “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.”The contradictions is in your camp Jack!For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: “WHO SHALL **CHANGE OUR V…[Read more]

JackQuote (thethinker @ Nov. 13 2009,11:05)First, The word “body” is “soma” and sometimes may indicate the whole man. I have already shown you this from Vine's.Give me some scriptural examples! I have already checked every instance where “soma” is used and in every case it is speaking of the natural body as opposed to the soul or spirit of…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 13 2009,10:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 13 2009,09:43)Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 11 2009,14:30)The resurrection of Jesus was about His coming out of hades (Acts chapters 2 & 13). Paul said that He was raised up from the “abyss” (Rom. 10:7). His body was put in a tomb. It did not come out of the abyss. It was Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 13 2009,06:53)WorshippingJesus said:Quote The resurrection is the “quickening” or raising up our mortal bodies (the seed) to be made like unto his glorious body.Keith,Read it again in light of Paul's analogy. He said that the seed which is sown “dies”, that is, it dissolves. Then he said that what is left is the “bare”…[Read more]