Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 12 2009,16:52)Hi WJ, He is the Son of God. Sons have unambiguous beginnings.NHJesus became the Son of God when the Angel overshadowed Mary and anounced he will be called the Son of God.He shall be great, “and shall be called the Son of the Highest“: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David Luke…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2009,16:16)hi WJso any scripture who tell differently must be wrong or is a lie?tPlease, be my guest and show me a scripture where Jesus had a beginning.Keep in mind it has to be “unambiguous”.WJ

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2009,17:40)hi WJits also said that EVERYTHING WAS CREATED TROUGH CHRIST, so the only thing God has created would be the SON,so God create for the son,and the son works for the father,right???if so then the son can not be the father nor can the father be the son,because the son is taken out of the father right???TSorry…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 12 2009,09:18)Keith,I agree with you on the verse you are speaking about. But in John 7:16 Jesus said, “My doctrine is not mine but His that sent me.” Please comment on John 17:6.JackOf course Jesus words are the Fathers words, he is God right?Here is a list of some scriptures where Jesus claims his words were…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Dec. 11 2009,20:50)[Notice that “and God was the word”, In context this word did not have a capital “w”, Meaning this word meant word as in the dictionary…spoken word, or… written word.So the Father is a spoken or the written word!The logic that the Father is litterally the spoken word or written word is foolish!The text is…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 12 2009,02:43)Quote (katjo @ Dec. 11 2009,19:37)Col 2;9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form  Titus 2;13 While we wait for the blessed hope — the glorious appearing of our great GOD AND SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST  hebrews 1;8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for eve…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 12 2009,02:29)Quote (katjo @ Dec. 12 2009,14:25)LOOK HOW MANY SCRIPTURES LITERALLY CALL JESUS, GOD!Look at how many verses refer to some men and angels as “theos” and “elohim”. Both those words are translated as God/god.Where are they t8?WJ

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 12 2009,02:03)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,14:01)t8 said:Quote God is the redeemer and Jesus is the agent of God's redemption.Jesus is the indespensible agent of God's redemption which means that He is truly and properly the Redeemer.Paul is the final word and he said that it was Christ who redeemed us…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,17:12)Keith,What you say could be taken to mean that the Son did not really subject Himself to the Father. If He really subjected Himself to the Father then His words were not His own to dispense independently of the Father.Jesus said his words were his as well as the Fathers.I am just going by what he says.”My…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,17:12)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 12 2009,08:59)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,16:34)WorshippingJesus said to thethinker:Quote Actually Jack, I have already shown Gene the many times that Jesus claimed his words were his own, and in fact Jesus claims the New Commandments were his own.But Gene denies it and…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,16:34)WorshippingJesus said to thethinker:Quote Actually Jack, I have already shown Gene the many times that Jesus claimed his words were his own, and in fact Jesus claims the New Commandments were his own.But Gene denies it and chooses to only see certain scriptures that fit his theology. All you have to do is do…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2009,15:39)hi WJJn 12:49 For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it.tDon't stop there, how about…Heaven and earth shall pass away, “but **MY WORDS** shall not pass away“. Matt 24:35Now compare that with this…Jesus said to them, “My Father is always a…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,15:16)Quote (Gene @ Dec. 11 2009,03:58)WJ……….Jesus (PLAINLY) SAID the (WORDS) he spoke were (NOT) His why can't you except that. HE Spoke (GOD the FATHERS) (WORDS) to Us. Just Believe what Jesus said , He is (NOT) GOD, his His SON, same AS WE ARE. Peace and love to you and…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Dec. 10 2009,01:46)WJ   Rev.19:13…  13 and He is clothed in a cloak dipped in blood, and His name is called “The Word of God.” Notice “The Word of God”, not “The Word”.  Not quite the same meaning.Blessings.OKSo you are saying that the “Word” in John 1:1 is not the “Word of God”? If it is then that name is Jesus name in Re…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 11 2009,15:10)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 12 2009,03:01)Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 11 2009,05:28)WJ I wasnt calling you a swine!Its the trampling on I feared thats all,even Paul saw things which couldnt be spoken ofHMMM?I am not sure which is worse, calling me a swine or infering that I would trample on Gods words?  WJWJ,…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 11 2009,05:28)WJ I wasnt calling you a swine!Its the trampling on I feared thats all,even Paul saw things which couldnt be spoken ofHMMM?I am not sure which is worse, calling me a swine or infering that I would trample on Gods words? WJ

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 10 2009,16:45)WJ you love to twist words!You use words like "I take it you dont believe" or "suspicious" to attack me, then you say you didnt? there is only one judge and knower of all so unless im taking you wrong, save it for the judge who knows whats really going on, cause you dont!Amazing!How does questioning someone or…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 10 2009,17:28)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 11 2009,02:26)Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 10 2009,05:53)BD is the righteousness of God the same as you are through the gift of truth from Jesus the Christ.TKTell us how that works seeing that BD does not believe in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus nor that his blood is…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 10 2009,01:17)IMO you guys should thank t8 for letting you have the liberty you have here.For most sights would ban you for trashing the Bible!WJBTW, Thank you t8!!!WJ

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 10 2009,15:50)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 11 2009,02:38)Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 10 2009,02:50)Well WJ, im not about 2 post my life story here for you to critisize, but i will tell you what i need to,Do i believe in Jesus?Since i was a child i have known Jesus, who did i turn to whenever i was scared? Jesus. Who did i pray…[Read more]