Quote (Gene @ Jan. 27 2010,16:17)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 28 2010,07:55)Quote (Gene @ Jan. 28 2010,07:40)WJ and thinker………..So if GOD were to tell you to die and shed you own blood for Him for the sins of Humanity and you were to do that, out of FAITH in HIM,  then God is totally Free of any responsibility for that sacrifice> And it would…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 27 2010,16:17)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 28 2010,07:55)Quote (Gene @ Jan. 28 2010,07:40)WJ and thinker………..So if GOD were to tell you to die and shed you own blood for Him for the sins of Humanity and you were to do that, out of FAITH in HIM,  then God is totally Free of any responsibility for that sacrifice> And it would…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 27 2010,16:09)Did I not say that he who God wishes to curse (or sommat like that) he first makes them crazy – like Saul.How long have I been askin' him to step out – I know he is not a true Trinitarian – this is why it is affecting him so much.His spirit is writhing sommat awfully within him because he realises his error…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 27 2010,16:09)Did I not say that he who God wishes to curse (or sommat like that) he first makes them crazy – like Saul.How long have I been askin' him to step out – I know he is not a true Trinitarian – this is why it is affecting him so much.His spirit is writhing sommat awfully within him because he realises his error…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 27 2010,15:40)WJ and thinker………..So if GOD were to tell you to die and shed you own blood for Him for the sins of Humanity and you were to do that, out of FAITH in HIM,  then God is totally Free of any responsibility for that sacrifice> And it would be you along responsible. Now that is NONSENSE Thinking if i ever heard…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 27 2010,15:40)WJ and thinker………..So if GOD were to tell you to die and shed you own blood for Him for the sins of Humanity and you were to do that, out of FAITH in HIM,  then God is totally Free of any responsibility for that sacrifice> And it would be you along responsible. Now that is NONSENSE Thinking if i ever heard…[Read more]

JAQuote (JustAskin @ Jan. 27 2010,07:45)Well, WJ is actual correct in what he says:Thanks!Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 27 2010,07:45)It WAS Jesus' blood that redeemed us.Agreed!Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 27 2010,07:45)Jesus had ADAMS blood – that makes Him Human – not God!The bloodline comes through the Father, Jesus had no natural Father, and so your…[Read more]

JAQuote (JustAskin @ Jan. 27 2010,07:45)Well, WJ is actual correct in what he says:Thanks!Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 27 2010,07:45)It WAS Jesus' blood that redeemed us.Agreed!Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 27 2010,07:45)Jesus had ADAMS blood – that makes Him Human – not God!The bloodline comes through the Father, Jesus had no natural Father, and so your…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 27 2010,14:30)Hi TT, You would know God and His son and not be confused if you put aside the gameplaying and listened to Jesus.NHThat is the point. Jack is giving you Jesus very own words.Who is not listening?WJ

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 27 2010,13:42)The thinker wrote:Quote The words “raise up” does not mean “build.”What is a barn raising?The Greek word simply means the coming out into public for the first time and can be used for birth, resurrection, or a building.   That list is not necessary all inclusive as I am going from memory.KerwinTrue, depending on…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 27 2010,13:33)Hi TT, Are you collecting your inferences in the hope that many will make ONE truth?Let scripture speak without interference.NHYou should take your own advice!WJ

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 27 2010,13:30)Hi TT, And the Spirit of God speaking through Jesus did raise him.So where are more verses saying he raised himself?NHJohn and the Apostles disagree with you…When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that “he had said” this unto them; “and they believed the scripture, AND THE WORD…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 27 2010,12:55)Gene said to WJ:Quote WJ…………If I gave myself completely to GOD the FATHER , and He told me to go and die for HIM as a sacrifice for the sins of the world and i did it. Then whose blood was it to give just mine, no because i gave it to GOD ?.Gene,Sheer nonsense! Acts 20:28 conclusively infers that God…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 27 2010,12:55)Gene said to WJ:Quote WJ…………If I gave myself completely to GOD the FATHER , and He told me to go and die for HIM as a sacrifice for the sins of the world and i did it. Then whose blood was it to give just mine, no because i gave it to GOD ?.Gene,Sheer nonsense! Acts 20:28 conclusively infers that God…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 27 2010,13:10)Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 27 2010,03:28)TT,The premises can be what you like them to be, if you close of all avenues to the listener, like a magic conjuring trick:Trinitarian to non-triniatarian:   Premise 1: You say that Jesus wasn't God because he said 'Noone is GOOD except God'”   Premise 2: If jesus isn't G…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 27 2010,12:53)Hi TT, Surely you would not build your teaching on one verse in Jn2? Show us other supporting verses.You will find about 17 or so telling us God raised him.NHAnd surely you would not reject the teaching of one verse, would you?Blessings WJ

GeorgeQuote (Elizabeth @ Jan. 27 2010,07:01)That is why Jesus referred to himself as a temple; destroy it, and after three days he will raise it up again; that however does not mean he raised himself, nor does it mean he was bodily resurrected just because there was no body found. Was Jesus not a spirit being before he became a man? God gave him…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2010,04:06)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 27 2010,18:06)EdYou quote half of my question and then proceed to answer my question. Why did you do that?You quoted me as asking…Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 26 2010,20:41)how many Spirits do you have?But my question was…Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 26 2010,20:41)So is Jesus in…[Read more]

KerwinQuote (kerwin @ Jan. 27 2010,06:22)My point is that perhaps you are overly broad in applying what John meant and he was only speaking of Jesus’ death but not his resurrection.  Note that Jesus was the prototype, i.e. first fruit, of a new creation.Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 27 2010,06:43)Worshipping Jesus wrote:Quote God is a plural Unity.Are you stating God is more than one individual who are all in accord, harmony?OrAre you stating God is more than one groups each group that is in accord, harmony with itself?I assume the first as it seems to make more sense.You are correct that Genesis 1:26 can…[Read more]