Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2010,16:50)Ok, my opinion on this mess is, there wouldn't be so much confusion if the active voice of the Greek was understood by those who do not believe in the pre-existence of the Son of God.Also, if Jesus was merely proclaimed by God to be the Son of God then He would be one son of many and not the Only Begotten…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2010,16:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 30 2010,08:19)EDThe short answer is no!There is no scripture anywhere that calls Jesus the “Son of the Holy Spirit”!The Father, Son and the Holy Spirit took part in his conception!Jesus was not the Son of God by his conception but by declaration!Blessings WJHi WJ,You seem to try to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2010,16:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 30 2010,08:19)EDJesus was not the Son of God by his conception but by declaration!Blessings WJHi WJ,These words discount your earlier posts, and could even be viewed as supporting Jodi Lee's assertions.Ed JNot so!Jesus was concieved sinless, but the Angel says when he is born he will…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2010,15:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 30 2010,06:45)Quote (Jodi Lee @ Jan. 29 2010,14:17)Just my two cents anyways. I know you'll completely disagree   Blessings to you,     JodiJodiYes you are right, I do disagree.There is no Biblical evidence that your theory on the virgin birth is true.In fact the Angel seems to di…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ Jan. 29 2010,15:16)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 30 2010,06:45)Just my two cents anyways. I know you'll completely disagree   Blessings to you,     JodiJodiYes you are right, I do disagree.There is no Biblical evidence that your theory on the virgin birth is true.In fact the Angel seems to disagree with you…And the angel an…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ Jan. 29 2010,14:38)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 30 2010,06:16)JodiWhat do you mean “Huh”?If God sent me to preach his Gospel then could I say…”I (Keith) came down from heaven to tell you about Jesus!“And…”What and if you see me (Keith) ascend up to where I was before?“Would the above statements be true? Jesus said…What…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ Jan. 29 2010,14:17)Just my two cents anyways. I know you'll completely disagree   Blessings to you,     JodiJodiYes you are right, I do disagree.There is no Biblical evidence that your theory on the virgin birth is true.In fact the Angel seems to disagree with you…And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost sh…[Read more]

JodiWhat do you mean “Huh”?If God sent me to preach his Gospel then could I say…”I (Keith) came down from heaven to tell you about Jesus!“And…”What and if you see me (Keith) ascend up to where I was before?“Would the above statements be true? Jesus said…What and if ye shall see the Son of man “ascend up where he was before?“ John…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2010,12:03)Quote (Jodi Lee @ Jan. 29 2010,10:22)Not only was Jesus NOT official God's Son before the river Jordon. He certainly was not God's Son, before his birth.JodiThen what was the purpose of the virgin birth?If Jesus was not the Fathers Son before the Jordan then how did he have a heavenly Father before…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 29 2010,12:45)Jesus did assign another meaning  to the word water which is why the Samaritan woman was slow to catch on that he was not speaking of physical water from another source.KerwinHere is something for you to consider. In all of Johns writings he never uses the Word “Body”, Strong's G4983 – sōma, except in the Gospel…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ Jan. 26 2010,13:17)Jesus was SENT from heaven, meaning He was sent FROM God. Jesus came down from heaven, meaning he came from God.JodiSo in others words the following statement would be true…I (Keith) came down from heaven to tell you about Jesus!And…What and if you see me (Keith) ascend up to where I was before?Nope, not…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 29 2010,12:05)Kerwin said:Quote Let me see, Jesus clears the physical temple and the Jews ask him what sign he will perform to prove he has authority he had to do so.  He answers them with the statement we speak of.  He switched the meaning of temple right there which is equivocating.   Your problem is that you do not wa…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Jan. 29 2010,05:45)WJ: Heartwarming post! We need more of this. I pray for the blessings of God upon all of you. TKThanks Tim!Blessing to you and yours!Keith

Quote (Jodi Lee @ Jan. 29 2010,10:22)Not only was Jesus NOT official God's Son before the river Jordon. He certainly was not God's Son, before his birth.JodiThen what was the purpose of the virgin birth?If Jesus was not the Fathers Son before the Jordan then how did he have a heavenly Father before then?And he said unto them, How is it that ye…[Read more]

GeorgQuote (Elizabeth @ Jan. 28 2010,22:01)Why do you do this, jump all over the place; to confuse me, or is it because you are? First you tell me I deny the resurrection, when I did not; now you come back with “our” resurrection.What do you mean “Our” resurrection? Is their more than one type? Even the second resurrection is in their bodys! Do…[Read more]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Jan. 28 2010,13:07)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 28 2010,05:10)GeorgeQuote (Elizabeth @ Jan. 27 2010,07:01)That is why Jesus referred to himself as a temple; destroy it, and after three days he will raise it up again; that however does not mean he raised himself, nor does it mean he was bodily resurrected just because there was…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2010,13:53)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2010,05:44)GeneTrinitarians believe the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one!You are talking to the view point of a Modalist and not a Trinitarian.WJHi WJ,Have you forgotten to respond to my question to you?I have answerwd your question a second time and reprinted mine for you to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2010,20:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 28 2010,08:27)JAQuote (JustAskin @ Jan. 27 2010,07:45)Jesus had ADAMS blood – that makes Him HumanThe bloodline comes through the Father, Jesus had no natural Father, and so your conclusion is false!Blessings WJHi WJ,Yes; that is the point. WE can agree.Ed JEdThanks!WJ

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2010,20:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 28 2010,08:27)JAQuote (JustAskin @ Jan. 27 2010,07:45)Jesus had ADAMS blood – that makes Him HumanThe bloodline comes through the Father, Jesus had no natural Father, and so your conclusion is false!Blessings WJHi WJ,Yes; that is the point. WE can agree.Ed JEdThanks!WJ

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 28 2010,13:38)WJ,About Quip: Touché.Good for you!I thank you and appreciate and your honesty!Blessings WJ