Quote (Gene @ Jan. 31 2010,15:40)WJ…..Interesting could you tell us who Jesus was Praying to was it himself or someone other then he. And When he went to (HIS) GOD and (OUR) GOD and (HIS) FATHER and (OUR) FATHER. was that himself he went to. You fail to see Jesus said He could do (NOTHING) of HIMSELF, but yet you TRINITARIANS and PREEXISTENCES…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 31 2010,16:51)Nick……….Spirit not coupled with POWER is Useless and can do NOTHING. Intellect by it self can do nothing it must be connected with something that gives it force or Power.  Spirit is just the intellect and must be powered in what it is in. Have to go somewhere will get back to this later.peace and love to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2010,16:04)Hi WJ, All sons of God?Even some of God's chosen people were called sons of Satan.The breath of God does not make men God's sons.You must repent and be reborn from above of the Spirit of life.With no true scriptural foundation you write your own ideas as truth?Is that not the basis of gnosticism?NickWhat are…[Read more]

Quote (The One @ Jan. 31 2010,04:48)The difference?The power of”the Most High” overshadowed Mary where it did not Elizabeth.The “Most High”was more directly involved in Mary's case,where as in Elizabeth's case He wasn't.The Holy Spirit was involved in both conceptions(remember Elizabeth was barren),but it was God's own power encompassing Mary that…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2010,15:14)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 31 2010,17:52)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2010,01:36)Hi WJ, So the HE in Rom 8 is God.Jesus is HIS SON. Know God and His Son.NHIf Jesus is not God would it not be Idolatry for Paul to say we are to be conformed to the “Image of a mere man”?Why did Paul say it was Jesus instead of God…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 31 2010,06:41)A problem that is not addressed is the fact that the language we use today does not include 'my lord' and 'my God' in everyday usage.In the time of Jesus and in David's this were perfectly acceptable phraseology(”my Lord and my God”,”God, your God”,”your throne, O God (o mighty one)”)JAThe problem you have wi…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 31 2010,14:36)WJ………..You need to look more closely at the word (BY) it can Just as Equally mean (FOR)  Check it out again, I know you have before i amd sure. Jodi's explanation of this is right IMO. GOD the FATHER said HE (ALONE) CREATED the EARTH and EVERYTHING IN IT. But You Trinitarians and Preexistences simply  tare t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2010,02:50)Hi WJ, So much for theory.But do you know GOD and His Son??You can't know God without knowing Jesus!!!WJ

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2010,02:13)Hi WJ, Can you not be transformed into the likeness of Jesus by the work of God's Spirit. You must seek and submit to God's Holy Spirit. The sons of God are led by the Spirit.NHQuote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2010,02:13)Can you not be transformed into the likeness of Jesus by the work of God's Spirit.Well if…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 30 2010,10:17)Con……..Good post, i noticed, no thinker and WJ response. These Trinitarians when backed into a corner just seem to vanish and appear in another part of the house. peace and love………………….geneGene Sometimes it is not worth the time to engage a long post. But since you seem to think that we are…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 30 2010,04:56)Hi thinker, and WJ:Jesus told us who was “his” God as well as “ours”.  Don't you believe him?Jhn 20:17 Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them,'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to MY GOD AND YOUR GOD' “I am not…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2010,02:07)Hi WJ, Is greek logic any help? Jesus was transformed by the Spirit of God. We follow himNHIs it Greek logic to say that to be conformed to a mere mans image rather than Gods is idolatry?WJ

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 30 2010,13:37)To all,Marty brought up a point that I find interesting. The point being that in Luke 23:46 Jesus gives up his spirit to God before dying.   I believe that the scripture is stating he gave up the spirit of life that animated his body.  I am not sure whether or not this is also the spirit of holiness that is r…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 30 2010,09:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 30 2010,18:06)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 30 2010,00:41)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 30 2010,11:29)The problem with our N.T- it is so much ambigous about Jesus' resurrection. John says Jesus was having the right to raise himself from the dead whereas other writers say God was the one who raised…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2010,01:36)Hi WJ, So the HE in Rom 8 is God.Jesus is HIS SON. Know God and His Son.NHIf Jesus is not God would it not be Idolatry for Paul to say we are to be conformed to the “Image of a mere man”?Why did Paul say it was Jesus instead of God we are being conformed to?WJ

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 30 2010,03:10)WJQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2010,19:44) WJChrist and man are made in the image of God,but you have stated that it is only Jesus so we will believe you in stead of the scriptures this must be the true way to go .(you would like that don 't you???)a true christian will never follow men doctrine no matter…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Jan. 30 2010,01:57)Were the angels “The God” or “false gods”?DavidThe Angels are not Gods at all!The word “Eloyim” can be interpreted as kings, judges, men, or angels depending on context!The problem you have is the NT scriptures never once refer to Angels as “Theos” or not once is there any evidence of the followers of Christ…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 30 2010,00:41)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 30 2010,11:29)The problem with our N.T- it is so much ambigous about Jesus' resurrection. John says Jesus was having the right to raise himself from the dead whereas other writers say God was the one who raised him from the dead. So which one is correct?The individual that is right is the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 29 2010,17:52)Worshipping Jesus,I do not believe you are understanding me correctly.   The point I am attempting to make is that before his death on the cross Jesus was the only temple of the Holy Spirit but when he rose on the third day the temple was expanded to all that believed and thus received the Holy Spirit.KerwinEven…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2010,17:29)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2010,17:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2010,16:50)Ok, my opinion on this mess is, there wouldn't be so much confusion if the active voice of the Greek was understood by those who do not believe in the pre-existence of the Son of God.Also, if Jesus was merely proclaimed by God…[Read more]