Hi ALL ED quotes….Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2010,13:18)Mark 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: “FOR IT IS NOT YE THAT SPEAK, BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT.Ed says the “Logos” is the “Holy Spirit!So the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2010,13:18)Hi Everybody,John 14:24: He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: (Matt.15:5-9 / Mark 7:11-13)and The Word ( Hō Lōgôs) which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.Acts:4:31: And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and  they were all filled with the H…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2010,11:46)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 10 2010,02:39)Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2010,09:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 10 2010,00:58)Did John “see” the Holy Spirit?You say the Holy Spirit is the Father, did John see the Father?The systems of religion and traditions of men are unreputable sources because they 'twist' bible…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2010,09:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 10 2010,00:58)Did John “see” the Holy Spirit?You say the Holy Spirit is the Father, did John see the Father?The systems of religion and traditions of men are unreputable sources because they 'twist' bible verses.WJHi WJ,He seen the attributes of “The Father” in Jesus. (John 1:14)John…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2010,09:42)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 10 2010,00:58)Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2010,05:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 04 2010,03:39)GeneWho is the “Word” spoken of in these scriptures?“That which was from the beginning“, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, “which we have looked upon, and OUR HANDS HAVE…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ June 09 2010,02:58)Thanks Kathi and Mike,I was reading what WJ put, quotes from Saint Ignatius, I knew something was wrong, id read it years ago, I knew Ignatius and all those early Bishops believed different than what WJ claimed,  even WJ said..   Quote Mike, you want to incite the words of a man from the third century but why d…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2010,22:45)Quote (karmarie @ June 09 2010,13:59)Hi WJ, you took writings and misquoted them.Hi Karmarie,I didn't actually read his post, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did.  He's been learning lots of nasty behaviors from his friend.  Thanks again for setting matters straight!   peace and love,mikeMikeIt is be…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2010,22:45)Quote (karmarie @ June 09 2010,13:59)Hi WJ, you took writings and misquoted them.Hi Karmarie,I didn't actually read his post, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did.  He's been learning lots of nasty behaviors from his friend.  Thanks again for setting matters straight!   peace and love,mikeMike You should ch…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2010,22:38)ps I might not be done with this Ignatius fellow yet.  There are many more juicy tidbits like:I have learned that certain of the ministers of Satan have wished to disturb you, some of them asserting…..that He is Himself God over all. Mike Again, don't get to excited because Ignatius didn't write those…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2010,22:38)Quote (karmarie @ June 09 2010,12:41)I loved Ignatius.Hi KarmarieAnd I love you for these posts!   Mainly for this part:  But our Physician is the Only true God, the unbegotten and unapproachable, the Lord of all, the Father and Begetter of the only-begotten Son. We have also as a Physician the Lord our G…[Read more]

KI don't mean to pop your bubble, but the following are not “Ignatius” writings but are spurios letters believed to be written around 400AD.Quote (karmarie @ June 08 2010,21:10)I have learned that certain of the ministers of Satan have wished to disturb you, some of them asserting that Jesus was born in appearance, was crucified in appearance,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2010,20:30)You guys should look a little closer at what you post to “support” the trinity, because I get some of my best info AGAINST the trinity from stuff you post in support of it.Mike Thats because you still cannot understand the concept of plural unity. Trinitarians believe the Father and the Son are distinct in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2010,20:12)Let's see if you can be honest, WJ.  Isn't it very clear from the Eusebius letter that YOU originally posted on HN that Eusebius truly took the word “monogenes” to mean “only begotten” and the words “prototokos pasa ktisis” to mean “firstborn of every creature”?MikeNo, because the definition of those words…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 08 2010,23:07)Jesus became the second Adam when He came in the flesh.KathiAgreed, and thats when he became the “Monogenes' Son, and was “ginomai” (came into existence as man) made flesh, (John 1:14 – Phil 2:6-8) and after his ressurction is when he became the “firstborn”, (having the preeminence) over all creation. (Col…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2010,05:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 04 2010,03:39)GeneWho is the “Word” spoken of in these scriptures?“That which was from the beginning“, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, “which we have looked upon, and OUR HANDS HAVE HANDLED, of “the Word” “OF LIFE”; (For THE LIFE was manifested, and we have seen…[Read more]

KathiQuote (Lightenup @ June 08 2010,16:05)Your claiming that Adam was 'virgin born' has no Biblical basis either.This is a bold face lie and you know it!WJ

Quote (Lightenup @ June 08 2010,16:05)WJ,If it is not spelled out in scripture then it requires us to believe in man's interpretation…right? Adam was 'born of a virgin'…hmmm?? Well you won't see that in scriptures, will you? You are right that Adam and Jesus are both unique but if they were both unique in the same way, they wouldn't be…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2010,15:49)Hi WJ, So he was not a man and not born of woman?He was tempted in all the ways we are  how?He is an overcomer not a superman and we follow him.NHSo you believe Jesus was tempted with every possible temptation known to man?That would include incest, murder, rape, suicide, homosexualism, child molestation,…[Read more]

Quote (princess of the king @ June 08 2010,15:43)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 09 2010,05:15)Quote (princess of the king @ June 07 2010,20:40)Actually, if believing in the trinity requires treating ones a chattle, then my heart chose wisely to avoid such teachings. Thinking about such matters has only brought two words for triads ” secular…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 28 2010,02:50)Quote (kerwin @ May 27 2010,22:07)I wish to clarify a couple of my believes.It is tricky to differentiat temptation from actual sin when both are on the mental level, i.e. our thoughts.  I look to the temptations of Jesus as an example of what temptation is.  In those examples you see that Satan make a p…[Read more]