Okay!You guys give me to much to respond to, but I will get to it somehow. I am going out of town to Florida Friday, Saturday and Sunday to a revival at an associate ministers church, one of my Papas in the Lord. We will be worshipping our God and the Glory of God will be falling on us because he promises he will inhabit the praises of his people.…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 13 2010,19:22)Just a thought here as I was looking at the definitions of 'logos' and saw that 'decree' was a definition of that word.  See here:Quote Logos1. of speecha word, uttered by a living voice, embodies a conception or ideawhat someone has saida wordthe sayings of Goddecree, mandate or orderof the moral precepts…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 12 2010,22:17)Thanks Mike for that one-sided dialogue with John MacArthur  I understand your thinking on that.  Here's a link to a view which opposes 'eternally begotten' and favors 'incarnationally begotten:'  http://www.letgodbetrue.com/sermons/pdf/sonship-of-christ.pdfI am finding all these views interesting.KathiYes th…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2010,23:24)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 10 2010,14:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2010,22:46)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 10 2010,13:13)MikeCheck AT Robertson and the Net on Titus 2 :13 and see if they agree with you.I don't have to Keith.  I already checked the actual Greek text.  And it shows the word “kai” d…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2010,22:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 10 2010,13:46)MikeSo your answer to the question…”Is the Father in the “Form of God”? is no?So your answer to the question…”Does the Father have a form? is no?Keith,I have already given you a long answer to whether God has a form…….remember?And I have answered that it is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2010,23:18)I asked:Quote Do you agree with NETNotes on this one?  Do you agree that Ezekiel 34:24 is a Messianic prophecy that clearly lists God's SERVANT Jesus as merely a “prince” in contrast to “God Himself”?You answered:Quote Yes mike!Very good Keith…….we are slowly making progress. MikeNot so fast!The…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 12 2010,23:52)To All:Since everyone has been paying alot of attention to this thread, I just wanted to say that i havent paid attentionto any long posts that were directed towards me, i havent had the “Will” (Whether influenced or free or whatever its called-Gene) To Respond, Recently one of my family members past away…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 11 2010,10:48)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 12 2010,02:03)Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 10 2010,23:09)Kathi,As for WJ…you must have realised by now that he seeks his own agenda and will refute even the most obvious of truths and will also play games when he is caught out.He could not remain a trinitarian unless he used such…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 10 2010,06:49)WJ, Id like to apologise to you for argueing like I did in your thread. JA, I'm sorry.LU, I should never have fought back and should have dropped it. So I apologise for not doing so. And if in the future I do the things you say I do, please remind me I'm doing it, that's all I need. A friendly reminder. I will…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 10 2010,23:09)Kathi,As for WJ…you must have realised by now that he seeks his own agenda and will refute even the most obvious of truths and will also play games when he is caught out.He could not remain a trinitarian unless he used such tactics.JAEveryone here has an agenda. What you just said can be said of you!It just…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 09 2010,22:53)I know Keith, but your view isn't supported as to your translation of monogenes with the early church fathers and the writers of the creeds.KathiBut it is your view that totally disagrees because you believe Monogenes means Jesus had a beginning before time!WJ

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 09 2010,22:53)I know Keith, but your view isn't supported as to your translation of monogenes with the early church fathers and the writers of the creeds.KathiAnd just how is that? Because the word “Monogenes” is not in the creeds. The word “Gennao” is.So please show me how I am not in agreement!WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2010,22:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 10 2010,13:46)MikeSo your answer to the question…”Is the Father in the “Form of God”? is no?So your answer to the question…”Does the Father have a form? is no?Keith,I have already given you a long answer to whether God has a form…….remember?And I have answered that it is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2010,22:46)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 10 2010,13:13)MikeCheck AT Robertson and the Net on Titus 2 :13 and see if they agree with you.I don't have to Keith.  I already checked the actual Greek text.  And it shows the word “kai” directly preceding the genetive form of “savior”.So it means “of the great G…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2010,22:40)Ah, but Henry M. Morris, Ph.D. from the Institute for Creation Research DOES agree with me. Where is your evidence that a word that means “only” linked with a word that means “generated” means anything other than “only generated”?MikeNot so. Because you believe that “Monogenes” means Jesus had a beginning…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2010,22:12)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 10 2010,13:02)MikeThats funny since you reject the views of a world renowned Greek Grammarian and the NET on Phil 2:6 and the NET and TWOT on Micah 5:2 and Psalms 2:7.Does that mean that you are arrogant?  WJEzekiel 34:24 NET I, the Lord, will be their God, and my servant David…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 09 2010,22:11)Keith,You ought to know that there are scholarly trinitarians that disagree with you because you don't seem to acknowledge that.  I don't mind if you post things that you think disagree with me, you do it all the time.  Just put it in the right topic.  I am not purposely looking especially for those that di…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 09 2010,21:38)I am not implying they agree with me, I am bolding words that relate to the topic and also bolding words that clearly might show you or others how they disagree with you for your own information.KathiWhy are you seeking to find things that they disagree with me on? I thought you were searching for truth that…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 09 2010,21:38)Keith,Quote For the life of me, I do not understand why you pick sources and imply their quotes mean that Jesus had a beginning before the ages? I am realizing that these kind of statements:” “HE NEVER HAD A BEGINNING, for He was there in the beginning(John 1:1). In His prayer to the Father in the upper room,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2010,21:38)And that answers your question about the Father, too.  The Father will never be said to be “in the form” of God, for He actually IS God.  Just like you will never be said to be “in the form” of Keith because you actually ARE Keith.MikeSo your answer to the question…”Is the Father in the “Form of God”? is n…[Read more]