toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Terraricca,I see that you agree with Gene that 'a Spirit is not a Body'.What do you say that the 'Spirit' is and why does it need a 'Body' in the Spirit Realm?
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Hi Terraricca,Do you know what the 'Essence of God' is?Did God not 'Pour out his Spirit' onto the Disciples at Pentecost?
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2012,17:44)Toby,If a human being's body is turned to ashes their soul, which is spirit in content, descends to Sheol.The same is true of Lot's wife, since Scripture does not state otherwise.Hi Kerwin,So you are saying 'No, the Spirit that was in Lot's wife was not turned into a Pillar of salt when her flesh and blood body…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin, back to you soon .
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Mikeboll,You said, Quote For Who?Was the body prepared for “Jesus”? Or was it prepared for “only certain parts of Jesus”? Which answer fits better with “a body you prepared for ME” ?You say I don't answer you but then you ignore what I say.I said that the Body was prepared as the embodiment of the Spirit of Jesus.It is you who is saying &…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Mikeboll,The verse from John the Baptist stating that God could raise up children to Abraham from stones is not a valid analogy.The point of the saying is not to 'prove' that God can create children from stones because clearly if the children 'were' created from 'stones' then they would not be children from the loins of Abraham? (Unless…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Mikeboll,Quote WHY would you assume that God first had to remove his spiritual outer perimeter and only turn THE REST of Jesus into a human being? What do you mean by 'the rest of Jesus'?Quote WHY would you make an attempt to separate his body from the rest of him?'Assuming that He had a Spiritual Body' then because he had an 'Earthly Body' of…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mikeboll.The reason you are in an endless loop is because you started something that you cannot finish.You said that the 'Spiritual Body' is composed of 'Spirit' but you then can't define what 'Spirit' is.Not only that but you know that Jesus is Spirit in Heaven but you say that he is 'In a Spiritual Body'.So there are 'Two Elements':1) Jesus…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Mikeboll,Do you wish you'd never had mentioned 'Jesus had a Spiritual Body in Heaven before coming as Man'?You made a grave error of judgement a while back when you thought it would get you some kudos but it has come back to bite you.Are you ready to say what the body of your supposed 'Spiritual Body' is made of?And please don't say 'Spirit' as I…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mikeboll,I never made any premises. You made that up – I only asked the question. The question was to clarify the premises you made concerning the droplet of water analogy that excludes the Spirit in the Being and only concentrates on the body.A (Living) human being is 'Spirit… and …Body'.Where is the 'Spirit' in your analogy?Even the car…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Thanks EDJ.
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Hi Terraricca,John 20:22…
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mikeboll,By the way, I know you said not to reply but I thought I'd just like to run this by you…for reference only, of course!You said Quote Quote (toby @ Mar. 14 2012,19:03)Since an Angel (Spirit) is an “Essence” with Power and intelligence, it can manifest any type of temporary Body in the Physical world.How about you show me the…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Mikeboll,You said: Quote Hey Toby,Just exactly as I was reading your post, a more dumbed down analogy came to me. And as I promised, I will now share it with you.and Quote Forget the drop of water…Wise move – it was a rather “Wet” analogy!You said: Quote In the analogy, the engine is the “spirit” of the car, and the body is the body. (Notice t…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,You said: Quote Matthew 282 There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. 4 The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men.Since an Angel (Spirit)…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Hi Terraricca,You said: Quote gene ,toby,give me a break ,i am bend in two rolling on the ground ,crying of luffingYes, I agree. I wonder what will be in the next comedy sketch to be presented.All this and I only asked a simple question – Mikeboll's response is that God turned a droplet of water into a human being.
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mikeboll,You said: Quote Whatever happened to Jesus himself during the process of ceasing as a spirit being in heaven and becoming a flesh being on earth, happened to ALL OF JESUS, – spiritual body included.Can you show me the Scripture that says this? You said: Quote I saw that you cannot intelligently address my drop of water analogy. Until…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Hi Kerwin,Quote it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual bodyYou are perfectly correct, here. It's so simple to understand.Mikeboll thinks that a “Spiritual Body” is “a Body belonging to a Spirit”.But you will never hear him say that a “Natural Body” is “a Body belonging to a Nature”.I especially like the part he says about the part…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mikeboll,You said: Quote Look, no offense, but at least 30 of us understand Paul's spiritual body teaching. If you cannot understand it, then pray on it. But I feel you are playing games now. I've given you an analogy about a drop of water. What was your answer? Would you assume that God first removed the outermost layer of that drop befo…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mikeboll,You said: Quote No, I never said he was raised in a “NEW” spiritual body. I said that the earthly body in which he was raised from the dead was TRANSFORMED into the new, glorious, spiritual body he has now at the right hand of God. Remember? I said it was TRANSFORMED upon his ascension to heaven.Let me see if I can get this st…[Read more]
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