Gene, Mikeboll, Terraricca, Shimmer, and anyone else:I notice that only SeekingTruth has done the little quiz so far – is there any reason why you guys have not done it?  There are no 'Catch' questions in there – It is not designed to trap anyone – it's just to get a better understanding of what you believe you are reading in Scriptures.   S…[Read more]

Shimmer, good verse —————————————————–Hi Seeking Truth.While it is true that 'Flesh and Blood' cannot enter the Spirit realm, the Scripture verse explicitly says Inherits – not 'Enter'.——————————————————– And Hi Mikeboll. Can you tell me what 1 Corinth 14:37 means by 'a…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.It would seem to me, that if this Istari was feeling as frustrated as me, and then left the conversation, then they did well!  It seems that I may do the same, as it is a pointless exercise to argue with someone who redefines words and terms to mean what he wants because he cannot find anything of substance to stake his…[Read more]

Sorry, one more thing.In what Body are the Spirits of the dead now, while they wait for the resurrection and their 'Spirit Body' as you say?

Hi Mikeboll.Sorry – Did I make an error.  Did I say that Jesus' body was transformed to that of Spirit before he entered Heaven, or did I always say that He 'shed the flesh body'?  That was my point.  Jesus' body did not transform from flesh to Spirit – if my explanation was in error – I meant he certainly disposed of his flesh body, and only hi…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.Transform – the same thing in a different shape. You can't Transform Flesh and Bone (and Blood) into the form of a Spirit.Mikeboll, the Spirit is already a form – hence it is able to return to God without the Body in which it was constrained; it is able to enter the Spirit realm without the Body in which it was housed.And, a Form is not…[Read more]

Seeking Truth, See what I meant by 'Still on Formula'?

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 21 2012,23:31)Quote (toby @ Jan. 21 2012,16:43)A little quiz here, please answer with honesty according to your own understanding:1) Jesus came to save mankind from ultimate death.  Death in mankind is caused by Sin, and Sin corrupts the body and the mind.  What is meant by the word or the term 'Death' in terms of m…[Read more]

A little quiz here, please answer with honesty according to your own understanding:1) Jesus came to save mankind from ultimate death.  Death in mankind is caused by Sin, and Sin corrupts the body and the mind.  What is meant by the word or the term 'Death' in terms of mankind on Earth?2) A number of people in Scriptures are described as dying a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,05:34)tobithere are many,many sighting of angels that came down to earth and were touch by men and spoken to ,eat with, wrestled withand tell me how did they do it ??because at the time of the encounter they were in human form how is that ?angels are after all spirit being NO ??Hi Terrarica.  I wholly agree with…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.Thank you for your response – however it appears that you misunderstand the word 'transform' – or dematerialisng? I am sure you have a credible dictionary that you can refer to for the meaning!Since Jesus is a Spirit now and his Spirit was in his Body, then you are either saying that Flesh and Bone are the 'Body' of the 'Spirit' – or…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 21 2012,03:46)To ALL………Good question , HOW did Jesus change from flesh and bone to a spirit “Body”, i maintain he did not changes his body to Spirit, Because Spirit are NOT BODIES, No scripture say they are , now if there is one no one has produced it yet. Now there are flesh and blood bodies that were thrown into…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.In regard to your question, 'Do I believe Jesus is now a Spirit'  Yes.Scriptures say that Jesus is now a life giving Spirit.  Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. So Jesus is indeed in Heaven right now – and only Spirit can exist in the Spirit realm of Heaven. The q…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 18 2012,13:59)Can someone tell me what scripture(s) states that Jesus changed from body to spirit during the Ascension? What about John 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and…[Read more]

Hi all.Who here does not believe – that Angels/Messenger Spirits of God, are powerful and intellectual forces of energy?If not, then please state your opinion on the issue, thank you.

Gene, what do you think when you read scripture verses like Judges 13:And God listened to the voice of Mano'ah, and the angel of God came again to the woman as she sat in the field; but Mano'ah her husband was not with her.  And the woman ran in haste and told her husband, “Behold, the man who came to me the other day has appeared to me.”  And Mano…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2012,08:30)Quote (toby @ Jan. 17 2012,15:06)If you agree that Jesus was in a Flesh and Bone body, then you cannot also say that he entered Heaven in that same body. Only his Spirit can enter Heaven.  Therefore it must have been shed as he ascended upward (through the cloud) and out of sight of the Disciples.Or…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.I believe that the verses you quote, are actually speaking against your theory.If the Soul is to be clothed in the new glorious body, then what is it presently clothed in – Mortal Flesh, maybe?So what is the new 'clothes' – Immortal Flesh, maybe?How do you say that I am right, that at death the Spirit leaves the body – if both Jesus,…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll, I'll have to get back to you, I have run out of time!

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2012,22:53)Toby.A very genuine question.and a good one,for I did have that same question for a long time,but I can understand it clearly now.You are usinng your mind indeed.Everything was made by the word of God,we know this.And the word was MADE FLESH.Who made this word flesh?Gods word. And how did he make his word flesh?…[Read more]