Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2012,12:56)tobyplease address those following scriptures;MT 26:29 “But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.” MK 14:25 “Truly I say to you, I will never again drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink i…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2012,16:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 27 2012,11:41)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2012,18:09)Can we at least agree on that MIKE?Gene,Until we both agree on the DEFINITION of “spirit”  in Luke 24:37, anything else you say is pointless.  Because I can't show you what I have to show you until you are able to see what only you c…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 27 2012,06:37)Quote (toby @ Jan. 26 2012,01:59)Did I not answer you as to 'When did Jesus become a Spirit'.Let me rephrase it for you:Toby, when do you think Jesus stopped being a human being and became a spirit being?(And actually, your original answer was “everyone is a spirit being”, or something to that effect.  Then…[Read more]

And Mikeboll.

Hi Terrarica and Wakeup. I will have to get to your posts later.God Bless.

Hi T8.This thread is: Do Spirit's have Bodies? Does God have a Body?My stance is simple: A Spirit in the Heavenly realm does not have a body, because the infinite realm of the Spirit cannot sustain physical and material matter (a body).  In addition, whoever created the name Spirit for a Heaven dwelling Being, defined it as Incorporeal,…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,15:21)tobyread what is follow;Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began. Pr 8:24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth, when there were no springs abounding with water; Pr 8:25 b…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.You are doing that thing of yours again!  You ask a question and it is answered to you, yet you still persist in asking.  Did I not answer you as to 'When did Jesus become a Spirit'.  Are you only able to accept an answer that states what you want to hear.  I asked questions in a quiz and only one person answered.  I answered your ques…[Read more]

Hi Terrarica.  I will give your post some thought. (After I post to Mikeboll). Thanks Terrarica.

Hi Mikeboll.  Are you saying, that a credible source of common scriptural understanding (A Bible Dictionary) that states that a Spirit (Messenging Angel or other Heavenly Being) is 'Bodiless' – is insufficient 'proof' for you?  Please agree that this should be 'proof enough', but however you are not convinced in your own mind.Forcing words and ph…[Read more]

{Mikeboll, I just thought of an illustration for you to ponder:     ({})Consider that the diagram above represents the constrained Spirit '{}' in a flesh body '()' . What then does this represent:      ()And what does this represent:Do you see what i mean?}

Hi Mikeboll.  I see you ask Gene to define the word 'Spirit'.  I hope you looked it up yourself and see what it is defined as, and that not one single definition entertains the notion of it being 'an embodied being'.  In fact it says 'Spirit – as opposed to – Body'.You cannot therefore use the word 'Body' to describe something that by de…[Read more]

Hi all.Terraricca has kindly pointed out an error in the post I made, which stated erroneously that 'Jesus and God and mankind are already Spirits'.  I am sure your reaction is the same as Terraricca's and hope you can see that it was obviously an error – I apologise for the error.  Thank you for pointing it out Terraricca.The error was made w…[Read more]

Mikeboll, I see in your reply to Shimmer, that you quote Barnes in your defence and he says:”It is raised a spiritual body – Not a mere spirit, for then it would not be a body.”What does this say to you?

Hi Mikeboll.To answer your question: Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 24 2012,10:20)Toby, we agree that Jesus became a spirit.  Did this happen when he was raised?  Or when he ascended to heaven?No Mikeboll.  I do not agree that Jesus became a Spirit.I believe that Jesus is an active living Spirit in Heaven.(There is a difference).  Jesus and all liv…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 25 2012,08:44)Quote (toby @ Jan. 25 2012,15:12)Hi Terraricca.You quoted Gene these verses:Put off your old nature which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and put on the new nature, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness…[Read more]

Hi Terraricca.You quoted Gene these verses:Put off your old nature which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and put on the new nature, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness. These very much say:  'Put on the Spiritual Man' or…[Read more]

Mikeboll, Concerning your question to me, that you have asked that I answer: I cannot do better than direct you to SeekingTruth's answer.  SeekingTruth – brilliant answer.  The pivotal point is the use of the flesh based term 'Man' in that verse.  It is agreed that Jesus is Spirit in Heaven – So how does Paul allude to Jesus being 'Man from He…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 23 2012,13:58)I don't really see how the ONE question I keep asking Gene affects you, or why you would bring Gene up in a post to me.  You have already admitted the error you made when you said that there were only TWO meanings of “spirit” in scripture; and you have since acknowledged the truth that “spirit” in Luke 24:37…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.  I apologise that this is such a long post, it is three posts in one.  Mikeboll.  All your questions have been answered – every last one of them. You simply ignore them when they don't agree with what you want to hear/read. You claim that 'Spiritual Body' means 'Spirit Body', when there is not one single shred of evidence of use of su…[Read more]