toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
My advice to you Terrarica is that if you have nothing positive to add to a conversation then don't say it!
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2012,02:51)from Mike tree little questions ;you have made a big speech but NO SCRIPTURES,NO ANSWER,BUT OFFER A DEVIATION TO THE QUESTION ,AND THEN PROPOSE TO LENGTHENING YOUR QUOTE TO A NOVEL,SELF INFLATION you should use scripture truth to show Gods wisdom and not inflated opinions,PierreTerrarica, are you really that…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Mikeboll, you asked me:Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 31 2012,08:29) Was Lazarus raised back from the dead in the same body in which he died, or in a new, spiritual body?Lazarus was resurrected in the same body he died in – that's why he died again. Lazarus and the Widow's son and the Soldier's daughter and Jairus's daughter and others all were raised…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic The Kingdom of the Antichrist in the forum Prophecy 12 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 29 2012,12:36)Verse 23. And the light of a candle(no more electricity)shall shine no more at all in thee;—–For thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries,WERE ALL NATIONS DECIEVED.(muslems deceived all nations?)No not muslems only, but babylon the great;the whole system of this world,…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2012,09:42)Gene, can you tell us all the DEFINITION of the word “spirit” in Luke 24:37?Mikeboll, can you tell us all the definition of the word 'Body' in any credible dictionary? Please.
toby replied to the topic Jesus a MAN or Morphed Being in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Hi Mikeboll. I think you know exactly what Gene is saying.'God is not the God of the dead'God himself says to the Hebrews: 'If you follow my statutes then I will be your God'.Does this not imply that – until that time, (and/or as long as they DO NOT continue to follow God's statutes), God is not their God? While I understand that God (Almighty)…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Hi Mikeboll, how are you?You said in one of your post to me … “Jesus was raised from the dead in the same exact, human, flesh and bone body that he died in.”I seem to read that Apostle Paul, in his Epistle to the Corinthians concerning how the dead are raised up, said the following in (1 Corinth 15) … 'That which is sown is not the same as…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Hi Mikeboll.You said: 'So Jesus was an exception in both cases.'So it seems you are slowly cutting Jesus out of all aspects of what Paul said to the Corinthians about the raising of the dead. First that Jesus' Spirit cannot be used to qualify as not having a body. And now you say Jesus' great defeat over death and monumental rise from the g…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Jesus a MAN or Morphed Being in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 30 2012,01:39)Toby……….I believe God will be there God in the Future by this process Brother, Eze 11:19……> And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and al the abominations thereof from thence 19….> And i will give them one heart and (I) will put a “NEW SPIRIT”…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Jesus a MAN or Morphed Being in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2012,00:33)Toby,Did Jesus exist as a sentient being before the creation of the world?Hi Mikeboll, yes he was.
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Hi Mikeboll.In my list of questions to you a while back, your answers to at least two of them are slightly puzzling.The questions were:6. So, if I'm still following you, the Spirit of Jesus is now housed in a 'Spiritual Body'. Is this correct?7. So, the Spirit of Jesus 'In the Spiritual Body'…(sorry – long pause) – does that Spirit have a bo…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2012,08:54)Quote (toby @ Jan. 28 2012,15:35)Hi Mikeboll.Why do you ask me if I agree that Jesus was raised in a flesh and bone body? Is this not what Scripture says? Toby, This is what I asked you:In other words, do we agree that Jesus was raised from the dead as a human being, and at that time had a human body made o…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Jesus a MAN or Morphed Being in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Hi there Gene.You are certainly right that Jesus is not a Morphed Angel. And those 'Will' and 'Shall be' are as you say, future events. This also applies to downplay the Trinitarian view of the verse that says 'Will be called Son of God' and 'Shall be called Mighty God' (The latter title 'God' here does not mean God Almighty, but One of…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Hi Mikeboll.Why do you ask me if I agree that Jesus was raised in a flesh and bone body? Is this not what Scripture says? Is it not you that is saying that Jesus was raised into a spiritual body that was not a flesh and bone body'?
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
….verse 22 even explicitly has Jacob saying that God's house is a pillar of stone'. Mikeboll, all this 'Proof' and you missed out on it. Or was there a reason you didn't post these 'Convincing and proof' verses?
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Mikeboll, my answer is perfectly in order. Jesus is a Spirit Being in Heaven. He 'became' (your word) a Spirit Being as he entered the Heavenly realm, where his flesh and bone body cannot go.According to your theory and what you are trying to get me to say, Jesus turned into a Spirit Being at a non-event before he entered Heaven. That is wh…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 28 2012,09:30)If you had, would I still be asking for an answer? Let me make this REAL easy for you. Did Jesus change from human being to spirit being:A. When he was raised from the dead?B. When he ascended to heaven?C. Other?Toby, please use one of the letters above in your answer, so I can be clear what you thin…[Read more]
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
To Everyone:- When Jesus comes back – when he returns in like manner to that which he left – will he be Man or Spirit Being?- Will he have Flesh and Bone?- Does a Spirit Being drink wine – please show your evidence?
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,03:53)Hi Toby,That would be a constrictive start.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi EDJ.Did you mean that or did you mean 'Constructive'!
toby replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 27 2012,11:54)Toby.Daniel 10:13. But the prince of the kingdom of percia(phisical evil angel) withstood me 0ne and twenty days: but lo, michael(phisical holy angel) one of the chief princes,came to help me; and I remain there with the prince of percia.A phisical spirit body can be withstood(captured).Acts1:10. And when they…[Read more]
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